Another Trilby Tour bit of news for RickG!!!!!

Fish, the Trilby Tour isn't the only national event that Voce and Llewelyn have scored exceptionally well in over an extended period..both featured prominently in the Dubai match play championships recently...(1st & 2nd)....Voce shot a 2 under gross in the final round on the Desert Earnie Els course (7500 yards).....Voce also won a Daily Mail National event the year before..........

these major tournament organisers don't want to accept that the players that regularly win them might possibly be playing off higher handicaps than they should be......

I think it's only proper golfers that can really see what is going on here.............

Thanks for the further insight, as being new to the overall game I wouldn't be aware of other competitions they have won and that has made it even worse in my eye's.

I'll have to enter next year with my dodgy handicap then ;)
 
I'll have to enter next year with my dodgy handicap then ;)

No you won't it's already sold out with the next intake of 'Trilby Tourians' competing at a handful of venues around England all trying to become 'World Champion 2013'
 
Was it worth £250? Certainly not, I played on a slightly better than average course (Frilford Heath), got a decent pair of trousers out of it and a bag that will never see the light of day again as it is pretty cheap and nasty. For the same amount of money I could have had a day out at any of the Open venues or somewhere like Sunningdale or Woodhall Spa.

For £250 you could have a weekend at Woodhall Spa playing both The Hotchkin and The Bracken, dinner bed and breakfast, a few pints and still have change from a fathing.
 
If i played as often as Llewellyn and was still off 10, i'd go back to football. I love the Trilby Tour but do think some of the handicaps look a bit dodgy. however it's often the case that wherever you play, if you have a good win, you're a bandit. He's had plenty of good days though.

 
Matchplay is on next week, an event I played in. All I'll say is someone hit a worldy of a shot - even Seve would have a brick - which I saw and still don't believe. Some people have all the luck!!

I'm a big fan of the TT, and believe away from the hype & bravado Will is trying to do something for us 'normal' golfers. Ok, he earns a bob from it I expect (it's a business after all) but it delivers something different to the rest. Do I think people 'manage their handicaps - without a shadow of a doubt, but I do know that they do call the home clubs of everyone who qualifies for the final to check handicaps.

Anyway, apologies for my fat backside on Sky again. ;)
 
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Matchplay is on next week, an event I played in. All I'll say is someone hit a worldy of a shot - even Seve would have a brick - which I saw and still don't believe. Some people have all the luck!!

I'm a big fan of the TT, and believe away from the hype & bravado Will is trying to do something for us 'normal' golfers. Ok, he earns a bob from it I expect (it's a business after all) but it delivers something different to the rest. Do I think people 'manage their handicaps - without a shadow of a doubt, but I do know that they do call the home clubs of everyone who qualifies for the final to check handicaps.

Anyway, apologies for my fat backside on Sky again. ;)

That is what is causing all the uproar. In the case of Voce, he may be playing off his correct club handicap, just that he has protected it considerably for this sort of event. But in Llewelyn's case it seems he isn't playing off his club handicap. Someone on here is a member at the same club and posted to say his club handicap is 5.8 or 5.9 yet he played in the final off 10(?)

Any low handicapper will confirm that it is practically impossible for an established golfer to get cut from 10 to 6 in a matter of weeks.
 
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I think the key to Llewelyn is that from July 2011 to early August 2012 he was only been cut a total of 2.7 from 12.7 to 10.00 and that was at a time when had won last year! He was then cut between early August 2012 and late August 2012 down to 7.8 and is now residing at 5.9.

I think he has definitely protected his handicap as he hardly entered any medals or board comps at his club, no doubt in preparation of this years tour!

When did this years tour start and finish and can handicaps change during or once the competition starts?

I disagree with the comment that its impossible to come down from 10 to 6 in a matter of weeks as this year all clubs were asked to apply the ESR ruling and as such a single or back to back well under the buffer zone could have seen greater cuts issued to his handicap than the normal cat 2 status.
 
That is what is causing all the uproar. In the case of Voce, he may be playing off his correct club handicap, just that he has protected it considerably for this sort of event. But in Llewelyn's case it seems he isn't playing off his club handicap. Someone on here is a member at the same club and posted to say his club handicap is 5.8 or 5.9 yet he played in the final off 10(?)

Any low handicapper will confirm that it is practically impossible for an established golfer to get cut from 10 to 6 in a matter of weeks.

define 'established golfer'?

that in this case an individual's handicap has fallen far behind his underlying capability (for years, not weeks) is obvious. If he hasn't got involved at his club there's not a lot they will be doing in the absence of 'reports' from 3rd parties; whether they are competition organisers or individuals.
 
I think the key to Llewelyn is that from July 2011 to early August 2012 he was only been cut a total of 2.7 from 12.7 to 10.00 and that was at a time when had won last year! He was then cut between early August 2012 and late August 2012 down to 7.8 and is now residing at 5.9.

I think he has definitely protected his handicap as he hardly entered any medals or board comps at his club, no doubt in preparation of this years tour!

When did this years tour start and finish and can handicaps change during or once the competition starts?

I disagree with the comment that its impossible to come down from 10 to 6 in a matter of weeks as this year all clubs were asked to apply the ESR ruling and as such a single or back to back well under the buffer zone could have seen greater cuts issued to his handicap than the normal cat 2 status.

fish

My point is, if someone has been playing golf for a reasonable period of time, large handicap reductions are certainly not the norm. Agree that a newbie to the game can and will come down very quickly but a 40% reduction for a single figure player in a matter of weeks? No sorry, that to me suggests some serious handicap protection or manipulation.
 
fish

My point is, if someone has been playing golf for a reasonable period of time, large handicap reductions are certainly not the norm. Agree that a newbie to the game can and will come down very quickly but a 40% reduction for a single figure player in a matter of weeks? No sorry, that to me suggests some serious handicap protection or manipulation.

I agree with you.

I read the comment as though you thought it impossible "generally" to come down that amount (10 to 6) which is why I replied in the way I did. I also stated that I beleived he had protected his handicap as he played last year at 13 (12.7) and played a year later at 10.00!

So I agree with you, you don't only come down 2.7 shots in over 12 months, start another tour and then come down from 10 to 5.9 in a matter of weeks afterwards!

Maybe they should all wear Cowboy hats instead of the obvious Sombrero's?
 
so in theory I could practise like hell and just buffer in medals to hold my 22 handicap, enter the TT etc off 22 knowing I can play to say 14/15 all day long.... see you in 2014 ;)
 
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