AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

[Hacker Khan]

I agree Labour have gone too far to the left and have lost their focus.

People simply don’t trust Corbyn or Macdonald, now if they had a more centrist leader, say Kier Starmer, and a less radical/ more believable manifesto, then they would be wiping the floor with everybody else.

Tell me I’m wrong

Don't think they would be wiping the floor as Brexit has infected our politics too much now, but they'd have more of a fighting chance at getting some form of majority. Where as the best they can currently hope for is a monitory government propped up by the rest of the parties.

 

[Hacker Khan]

i think people are well versed on what an appaling politician and human being Corbyn is. For the leader of the opposition to have the most appalling ratings going into an election agaisnt someone as divisive as Borris sums it up - Corbyn should not even be allowed to be in the running as he is not fit to be a local councillior let alone someone that could be leading our country into ruin!

Depends on what papers they read and who they follow on social media.

 

[Kellfire]

i think people are well versed on what an appaling politician and human being Corbyn is. For the leader of the opposition to have the most appalling ratings going into an election agaisnt someone as divisive as Borris sums it up - Corbyn should not even be allowed to be in the running as he is not fit to be a local councillior let alone someone that could be leading our country.

Ah, so you read the Daily Mail, eh? So utterly brainwashed.

 

[PNWokingham]

Ah, so you read the Daily Mail, eh? So utterly brainwashed.

it doesn't matter what i read or what bias is on it - i make my mind up on the facts and listening to the words of this appalling excuse for a politician. The Labour party led by these lunatics are unelectable by many life-long labour supporters. Hopefully this election will consign them to history and a credible centre-leaning economically competent opposition can emerge

 

[louise_a]

it is strange that people say they wont vote labour because they have gone too far to the left, but apparently people have no problem voting tory even though they have gone too far to the right.

 

[harpo_72]

it is strange that people say they wont vote labour because they have gone too far to the left, but apparently people have no problem voting tory even though they have gone too far to the right.

And their lies the irony of it all. Or it’s just more acceptable to be right wing?

 

[Hacker Khan]

it is strange that people say they wont vote labour because they have gone too far to the left, but apparently people have no problem voting tory even though they have gone too far to the right.

Some may argue they are comfortable, indeed positively excited about how far right they have gone.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Work of comic genius in my opinion, kind of skewers all parties but of course especially as it's the Guardian, the Tories. Some of the one liners are inspired.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...on-countdown-praying-prorogue-next-parliament

 

[Deleted member 15344]

i think people are well versed on what an appaling politician and human being Corbyn is. For the leader of the opposition to have the most appalling ratings going into an election agaisnt someone as divisive as Borris sums it up - Corbyn should not even be allowed to be in the running as he is not fit to be a local councillior let alone someone that could be leading our country into ruin!

Didn’t Corbyn recently win some prestigious peace award ?

People may not agree with his policies and have different ideas than him but “appalling human being” ?!? - aren’t we all starting to go over the top now in regards him.

And as for being unfit to be a councillor- the main has held down his seat as an MP for decades has he not ?

Whilst I’m not a fan of him because of his views on the defence of the nation and wouldn’t trust him IMO the social media campaign against him has been horrific to the point of so many lies and fake news but people have believed it.
Yep he is certainly to the left but what has he actually done that is so damaging that he deserves to be called an “appalling human being “

 

[Kellfire]

it doesn't matter what i read or what bias is on it - i make my mind up on the facts and listening to the words of this appalling excuse for a politician. The Labour party led by these lunatics are unelectable by many life-long labour supporters. Hopefully this election will consign them to history and a credible centre-leaning economically competent opposition can emerge

That’s a yes then. Enough said. Haters gonna hate.

 

[PNWokingham]

it is strange that people say they wont vote labour because they have gone too far to the left, but apparently people have no problem voting tory even though they have gone too far to the right.

i disagree with this - the manifesto is very one-nation and centrist wiith lots of increased spending - what elements do you see to back up they have gone hard right as i cannot see any?

 

[PNWokingham]

That’s a yes then. Enough said. Haters gonna hate.

you make so little sense it is not worth bothering with but i read what i read and make my own mind up on the facts not the slant of any publication

 

[Hacker Khan]

i disagree with this - the manifesto is very one-nation and centrist wiith lots of increased spending - what elements do you see to back up they have gone hard right as i cannot see any?

I think Beelzebub himself, as you seem to think he is, has the Tories beat on increased spending if that's your bag baby.

 

[Kellfire]

it is strange that people say they wont vote labour because they have gone too far to the left, but apparently people have no problem voting tory even though they have gone too far to the right.

I’m not sure what happened to humanity when being left wing was considered bad and being right wing was good.

So it’s empathy, caring, supportive and generally being a decent person or it’s being selfish, profit driven, happy to walk over everyone else and complete lack of caring for the suffering of others.

Erm?

 

[PNWokingham]

Didn’t Corbyn recently win some prestigious peace award ?

People may not agree with his policies and have different ideas than him but “appalling human being” ?!? - aren’t we all starting to go over the top now in regards him.

And as for being unfit to be a councillor- the main has held down his seat as an MP for decades has he not ?

Whilst I’m not a fan of him because of his views on the defence of the nation and wouldn’t trust him IMO the social media campaign against him has been horrific to the point of so many lies and fake news but people have believed it.
Yep he is certainly to the left but what has he actually done that is so damaging that he deserves to be called an “appalling human being “

ok Phil - maybe an appaling human being is too strong - but an appalling politician, with appalling leadsership, appalling and clueless economic principles, unsafe to be in charge of the military, plenty of form of not only not dealing with anti semitic behaviour but tollerating it and yet claiming there is no problem/ the problem has been dealt with etc when it plainly has not - backing the IRA against this country etc etc.

 

[Kellfire]

you make so little sense it is not worth bothering with but i read what i read and make my own mind up on the facts not the slant of any publication

Obviously not true from what you’ve said.

 

[Kellfire]

ok Phil - maybe an appaling human being is too strong - but an appalling politician, with appalling leadsership, appalling and clueless economic principles, unsafe to be in charge of the military, plenty of form of not only not dealing with anti semitic behaviour but tollerating it and yet claiming there is no problem/ the problem has been dealt with etc when it plainly has not - backing the IRA against this country etc etc.

You do realise that of those things you’ve said, most are demonstrably untrue and all you’ve done is believe right wing propaganda?

 

[PNWokingham]

Obviously not true from what you’ve said.

if you have anything relevant to say do say but don't tell me what i read and why i believe what i do

 

[Kellfire]

if you have anything relevant to say do say but don't tell me what i read and why i believe what i do

You’re very Boris Johnson in your delivery - “I’ll just be very loud and ignore the salient points you’re making and say other things bombastically.”

 

[PNWokingham]

Obviously not true from what you’ve said.