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An honourable man would resign. He’s presided over the biggest single disgrace the Labour Party has ever experienced.
Going off at a tangent, the pathetic interview aired last night with Julie Etchingham, in which he said he watches the Queen’s speech on Christmas morning. It’s almost a nothing point whether he watches it or not. But to say he does when he so patently doesn’t... the guy is an out and out liar. And in that respect he’s no better than Johnson. And he says that Labour has addressed antisemitism... how can you believe him?
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Still not answering the question Bri,
How are those Jews still in the Labour Party and supporting him reconciling themselves with all this information out there?
Bearing in mind the amount of flak fired at Corbyn in recent years, this makes for compelling evidence to counter those claims.
But isn't it a little odd(convenient) that such a weighty piece of work only surfaces now.
I can't call it BS because I can't definitively say it is, but I am hugely sceptical that this is genuine.
Tell you what, to play the SR card, you answer the question I posed to you first....
Actually I'm pissed off with playing this game. Corbyn and Labour are fundamentally antisemite and you are defending that time and again. Just what does that make you..............
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For me I don't particularly care about the timing as much as I do about the sheer number of Anti Semitic complaints that Labour has had from both outside and within its own party.
It also doesnt matter how many times Corbyn says sorry or that he finds it abhorrent or how many people post of times he helped Jewish people, I find it more abhorrent that so many cases took so long to be acknowledged, that despite supposedly resolving the issues in the past that it still continued the under his leadership. The only real way for him and the leadership(momentum etc) to truly apologise is to stand aside and for the party to be cleansed of this issue.
This issue alone is reason enough for me not to vote for him let alone the fact I don't believe the manifesto is in anyway affordable without it impacting the average working family or causing further detrimental impact on the countries economic state.
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There has been proof of issues within the Labour Party but I don’t believe there is proof that Corbyn himself is Anti Semitic - I don’t agree with him but he has spent his whole life battling against Racism
But agree as leader he should have done something
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Wow, gone low and name calling, never expected that from you, no worries, as for defending Corbyn, simply pointed out the fact that he’s apologised more than once, said all complaints would be investigated, I believe he is and has took it very seriously.
You obviously believe the JLM, I believe they have another agenda.
3offTheTee
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Think Farage is giving Neill a good run for his money. Wish Neill would STOP continually interrupting
ColchesterFC
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This is what I thought last night as well. The answer that he eventually stumbled around to giving about having family around, visiting a homeless shelter and not watching it would have been perfectly acceptable had he just come out and said it. But to initially make out that he does watch it and then fumble around to get to the truth was somewhat bizarre. It's as though he listens to any question and then tries to give the answer that he thinks people want to hear rather than giving an honest answer. Yes they all do it to one degree or other but he just seems to be worse for it than anyone else.
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Me too
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No issues with your points on the manifesto, I described it as a fairy story, don’t know how much you’ve looked in to or researched the JLM, it’s interesting and not as black and white as it appears in my opinion.
Going back to the original 136 cases sent to the EHRC by the JLM, Labour disputed they hadn’t been dealt with, it then comes out these were cases the JLM didn’t agree with the Labour findings, that’s different to not being dealt with.
Anyway best I leave there.
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I've looked into it plenty and am looking at the bigger picture for me Its not just about the 136 cases though for me that's to simplistic an approach, its about all of the cases over the years under his tenure which is why imo the apologies don't matter, i can appreciate he may well be sorry I'm not even saying Corbyn himself is antisemitic but he has failed as a leader in this matter over a number of years.No issues with your points on the manifesto, I described it as a fairy story, don’t know how much you’ve looked in to or researched the JLM, it’s interesting and not as black and white as it appears in my opinion.
Going back to the original 136 cases sent to the EHRC by the JLM, Labour disputed they hadn’t been dealt with, it then comes out these were cases the JLM didn’t agree with the Labour findings, that’s different to not being dealt with.
Anyway best I leave there.
I also have massive issues with Boris and his character so very much can't see my vote going there it's a bad time for politics especially with those leading the major parties
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Surely the fact is that the Labour party and JC have apologised and promised to investigate only AFTER being put under pressure to do so.
Any apology made under duress hardly ranks as genuine, IMO.
Any apology made under duress hardly ranks as genuine, IMO.
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Come on Boris, he's a Tory boy, he's told you the questions he will ask you beforehand, surely you can't still be scared. I'm currently respecting Farage more than you at that is never a good sign.
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3rd time he’s apologised since 2016, latest 2 days ago, could apologise another 50 times and he wouldn’t be believed.
Still no comments on how the JLM have behaved in this manner, no ulterior motive from them apart from passing a motion at their AGM in April to do everything in their power to stop Corbyn becoming PM, which came after they lost the court battle to have any anti-Israel comments classified as anti-semite.
The JLM report to the EHRC leaked.
https://orientxxi.info/magazine/ant...ffensive-against-jeremy-corbyn-in-the-uk,2446
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Anti Semitic or liar .. gosh the options!
So everyone happy with the deal?
Anyone want to renegotiate or have a Canada/Norway type deal?
Or should we just stay ?
The choice your making is about Brexit and dare I say the next 10 -20 years ..
I really don’t give a hoot about their manifestos, how many have ever been delivered on? Are they of any value given the Brexit constipation..
So everyone happy with the deal?
Anyone want to renegotiate or have a Canada/Norway type deal?
Or should we just stay ?
The choice your making is about Brexit and dare I say the next 10 -20 years ..
I really don’t give a hoot about their manifestos, how many have ever been delivered on? Are they of any value given the Brexit constipation..
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Thats because it doesn't matter how many times he says sorry especially if its under duress, apologies back in 2016 are irrelevant now because since then there has been mire anti semitism in his party as leader he should have cut it off completely and shouldn't have been anymore occurrences. Its fair enough Paul that you're willing to accept that apology from him on the parties behalf and move on, even defend him as your choice but we don't all share in that acceptance and feel under his tenure something thsts an issue festered, continued and in some cases got worse. I won't accept his apology for that continued failure of leadership.
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Potentially damaging for PM, crafty bit of fishing by beeb/Neill. Will the PM take the bait? Lose lose situation for BJ.
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