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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Haven’t heard Boris apologise at all for his indiscretions and lies.

Remember that Boris doesn’t like the working classes .. and makes no apologies for it.
 
Wolf said:
Thats because it doesn't matter how many times he says sorry especially if its under duress, apologies back in 2016 are irrelevant now because since then there has been mire anti semitism in his party as leader he should have cut it off completely and shouldn't have been anymore occurrences. Its fair enough Paul that you're willing to accept that apology from him on the parties behalf and move on, even defend him as your choice but we don't all share in that acceptance and feel under his tenure something thsts an issue festered, continued and in some cases got worse. I won't accept his apology for that continued failure of leadership.
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I’m not willing to accept his latest apology, I agree he could of tried more, I just believe there’s something more sinister at play here.
I don’t like Corbyn, I wish he wasn’t leader, the bit I do believe is that the Labour Party now has systems in place to deal with complaints.
Have a look at the link I posted, Jewish people have been attacked for being antisemitic.
It’s his support of the palestinian people that is driving this.
 
harpo_72 said:
Haven’t heard Boris apologise at all for his indiscretions and lies.

Remember that Boris doesn’t like the working classes .. and makes no apologies for it.
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Corbyn doesn't like the working classes, he likes the islington elite set, the middle class socialists that are driving his stormtrooper momentum brigade, mainly made up of state employed or retired who have never worked in the real world of business and industry but on the last bastions of trade union control. The working classes (what ever that means now) have been lied to and ignored because they tend to want to leave the EU as they don't see the benifits but are at the brunt end of the effects social engineering has hoisted on their lives. Its OK for these armchair socialists in their leafy suburban homes to suggest the proletariat unwashed with their uneducated and racist views dont know what's good for them but these views are starting to surface and be exposed for the high horse balderdash they are.
 
SocketRocket said:
Corbyn doesn't like the working classes, he likes the islington elite set, the middle class socialists that are driving his stormtrooper momentum brigade, mainly made up of state employed or retired who have never worked in the real world of business and industry but on the last bastions of trade union control. The working classes (what ever that means now) have been lied to and ignored because they tend to want to leave the EU as they don't see the benifits but are at the brunt end of the effects social engineering has hoisted on their lives. Its OK for these armchair socialists in their leafy suburban homes to suggest the proletariat unwashed with their uneducated and racist views dont know what's good for them but these views are starting to surface and be exposed for the high horse balderdash they are.
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I think you've spent too much time Dib, dibbing & dob, dobbing... you've been radicalized. Mean while the real world goes on. :eek::eek:
 
SocketRocket said:
So what other choice did the Conservatives have than austerity (or reducing borrowing as I prefer to call it) Should they have borrowed the country out of debt ? Also it was not a decision by the Conservatives alone, it was a coalition decision.
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Whether or not they had a choice is actually neither here nor there in respect of what Javid said. Homelessness has increased on the Tory Party watch since 2010 - aided and abetted by cuts brought around through the austerity programme. The Tory Party may not have wanted to make the cuts - and of course would not have wanted to see increased homelessness as a result - but that is - as a matter of fact - what happened. Homelessness has increased since 2010 as a result of Tory Party austerity policy. It is simply an untruth to say otherwise.

Javid was the housing minister from July 2016 to April 2018, and so to suggest that somehow he 'forgot' the truth of the matter is just a nonsense - do they take us for fools? I suspect that Javid deliberately made this misleading (false?) statement in an attempt to mislead voters - I suppose to fix in the mind of some the idea that Labour is to blame. It's desperate stuff.
 
2blue said:
I think you've spent too much time Dib, dibbing & dob, dobbing... you've been radicalized. Mean while the real world goes on. :eek::eek:
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????? Is that all youve got?
Silly boy ?
Let us hear the wisdom of your views, weve heard your schoolboy one liners but do you have anymore to enlighten us with. I somehow doubt it. Dyb Dob ?
 
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Whether or not they had a choice is actually neither here nor there in respect of what Javid said. Homelessness has increased on the Tory Party watch since 2010 - aided and abetted by cuts brought around through the austerity programme. The Tory Party may not have wanted to make the cuts - and of course would not have wanted to see increased homelessness as a result - but that is - as a matter of fact - what happened. Homelessness has increased since 2010 as a result of Tory Party austerity policy. It is simply an untruth to say otherwise.

Javid was the housing minister from July 2016 to April 2018, and so to suggest that somehow he 'forgot' the truth of the matter is just a nonsense - do they take us for fools? I suspect that Javid deliberately made this misleading (false?) statement in an attempt to mislead voters - I suppose to fix in the mind of some the idea that Labour is to blame. It's desperate stuff.
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Of course its here or there. What is this homelessness you go on about, how many people have been thrown out of their homes onto the street by Javid? Do you have all the facts on homelesness, is it a result of the high employment levels or the way wage rises are outstripping inflation? No one wants people to be homeless but you try to make it sound as if its Conservative policy, that's just petty and narrow thinking. I suggest there is a plathoria of reasons why people are homeless but its not a simple problem and just using the blunt instrument of blaming thr Conservatives.
 
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Of course its here or there. What is this homelessness you go on about, how many people have been thrown out of their homes onto the street by Javid? Do you have all the facts on homelesness, is it a result of the high employment levels or the way wage rises are outstripping inflation? No one wants people to be homeless but you try to make it sound as if its Conservative policy, that's just petty and narrow thinking. I suggest there is a plathoria of reasons why people are homeless but its not a simple problem and just using the blunt instrument of blaming thr Conservatives.
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It's to do with Javid as a minister of a Conservative government and as housing minister for a time in the last ten years. It's to do with Javid as it is he who claimed that the current level of homelessness is down to the previous Labour government.

The level of homelessness that we have today is a lot greater than it was ten yrs ago when the Tory Party came to power. And we know that austerity-related cuts have hit services that support those at risk of becoming homeless. Austerity was/is Conservative Party policy and that policy will have had an impact on homelessness. Nowhere did I say that making any individual or group of individuals homeless was a Conservative Party policy. However it is a FACT that homelessness has risen under the Tories - this is not the fault of the previous Labour government as Javid asserted.
 
What’s all this “Dib Dob” stuff that people are posting on here?

Back in the 1960’s DYB DOB was a Scout chant meaning “Do Your Best- Do Our Best”

Now it seems to have been hijacked for political purposes or point scoring.
Which is a shame
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Whether or not they had a choice is actually neither here nor there in respect of what Javid said. Homelessness has increased on the Tory Party watch since 2010 - aided and abetted by cuts brought around through the austerity programme. The Tory Party may not have wanted to make the cuts - and of course would not have wanted to see increased homelessness as a result - but that is - as a matter of fact - what happened. Homelessness has increased since 2010 as a result of Tory Party austerity policy. It is simply an untruth to say otherwise.

Javid was the housing minister from July 2016 to April 2018, and so to suggest that somehow he 'forgot' the truth of the matter is just a nonsense - do they take us for fools? I suspect that Javid deliberately made this misleading (false?) statement in an attempt to mislead voters - I suppose to fix in the mind of some the idea that Labour is to blame. It's desperate stuff.
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Let’s get it clear all that is rubbish now, is of the Tory making as is all the good ( but you will have to remind me). They have been in power for more than a decade
 
Saw it last night, load of crap, no one is required to go on any particular programme to be interviewed and now AN has been arrogant enough to say this crap publicly I'd, if i were Boris, would tell him exactly where to go.
 
chrisd said:
Saw it last night, load of crap, no one is required to go on any particular programme to be interviewed and now AN has been arrogant enough to say this crap publicly I'd, if i were Boris, would tell him exactly where to go.
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funny how he had time to go on Holly and Phil an get a selfie... just running scared, what does that make him....? is he going to face up to other world leaders if he won't even face a journalist who's going to ask him a few question?
 
patricks148 said:
funny how he had time to go on Holly and Phil an get a selfie... just running scared, what does that make him....? is he going to face up to other world leaders if he won't even face a journalist who's going to ask him a few question?
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I'm pretty sure Putin or Trump are not going to approach a meeting in the way that AN does an interview where his sole intention is to get the interviewee to agree with him all the time. Last night Nigel Farage was getting visibly angry with AN, something I've rarely seen from Farage who, if nothing else, is usually pretty calm and collected. If I were Boris I'd tell AN where to go, something I reckon that Wee Krankie had wished she'd done !
 
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Comes across as a bit of a big headed knob there imo.
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Agreed. Didn't Nige do well though. Although he did get led down alleyways by AN when he could have stood his ground and kept to the...we are here to ensure Boris gets us out. Really why both trying to answer questions about what Brexit would do if they were in power. They're not even standing in half the seats. He also was very honest regarding dodgy candidates "dunno" (basically) was his replies. It's a real shame that he will walk away from all this once Brexit is done, (coz he will that's why he's not standing anywhere). He's not gonna be bothered too much over the detail, just wants to make sure we get out.

PS I'll bet £20 that we have a referendum to go back in to the EU (if it's still going) by the end of 2030.
 
chrisd said:
I'm pretty sure Putin or Trump are not going to approach a meeting in the way that AN does an interview where his sole intention is to get the interviewee to agree with him all the time. Last night Nigel Farage was getting visibly angry with AN, something I've rarely seen from Farage who, if nothing else, is usually pretty calm and collected. If I were Boris I'd tell AN where to go, something I reckon that Wee Krankie had wished she'd done !
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So you'll use Andrew Neil's interviews to form an opinion of one leader but don't want another leader to go on as you feel it would be a waste of time? You obviously watch them as you seem to comment on each one he does.
 
SocketRocket said:
I dont think we are going to agree on this subject, I would make a few points though.

I don't think many people would suggest we should have a zero immigration policy, it needs controlling so that it is targeted to meet requirements.

I don't understand how anyone can think uncontrolled immigration is good for the country.

How big should our population be so that it is sustainable?
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Immigration is currently controlled by economics... supply and demand. People are not moving to a different country to be idle, despite what some right wing commentators would have you believe. The vast vast majority are working, paying taxes, boosting the economy.

When people talk about 'controlled immigration' they inevitably mean 'less immigration'.

Post Brexit, you might have controlled immigration, but I'm willing to bet that the UK Gov (or UK based companies who the gov are forced into giving visa powers) will be spending millions sending teams to jobs fairs in Europe, Asia, Africa etc. screaming for people to come and work on building sites, in hospitals, in hospitality etc.

Ultimately fewer people of working age in the country will be bad for our economy and bad for our population. As I've said, some work required on encouraging the population away from London / SE.
 
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