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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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ger147 said:
I have no idea what either of your calculations are supposed to show???

In your first example, 50 people donating £74 million each to then be split between 67 million people would mean each person getting about £55 each.

In your second example, if you want each billionaire to give 67 million people nearly £75k each, that would cost each billionaire nearly £5 billion each and each individual would end up with close to £4m each.

I would suggest leaving the sums to folks better qualified like Diane Abbot and Nick Gibb...
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Okay I will explain
There are 50 billionaires, a billion equals 1000 x 100 million
The population is 67 million
So 50 x 1000x100 is theoretically the total cash if we assume that each billionaire owns only 1 billion.
So that is 5000000million now divide by 67.
That gives you your 74.6k

The point is we don’t need that contribution from the population to run this country.
if you cost out what the manifestos are suggesting it’s not this level of contribution they are looking for ..
Now what’s your problem?
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Out of interest..... what are the views of the Boris Fan Club on here about their heroic leader attempting to dodge the Andrew Neil interviews.
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Quite happy!

All I want is that JC does so badly that help from your mob wont put him in to no 10 before the SNP swan off to rejoin the EU where they will find being subservient to Brussels more acceptable than Westminster
 
harpo_72 said:
Okay I will explain
There are 50 billionaires, a billion equals 1000 x 100 million
The population is 67 million
So 50 x 1000x100 is theoretically the total cash if we assume that each billionaire owns only 1 billion.
So that is 5000000million now divide by 67.
That gives you your 74.6k

The point is we don’t need that contribution from the population to run this country.
if you cost out what the manifestos are suggesting it’s not this level of contribution they are looking for ..
Now what’s your problem?
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When it comes to readies a billion is a thousand million not a million million
 
chrisd said:
Quite happy!

All I want is that JC does so badly that help from your mob wont put him in to no 10 before the SNP swan off to rejoin the EU where they will find being subservient to Brussels more acceptable than Westminster
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So you are happy to have a gutless leader who is scared to be interviewed by a less than average former Sun journalist.:eek:
 
chrisd said:
Quite happy!

All I want is that JC does so badly that help from your mob wont put him in to no 10 before the SNP swan off to rejoin the EU where they will find being subservient to Brussels more acceptable than Westminster
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It's hardly aspiration politics for a bright future, hide your leader away. I can kind of cope with someone fronting up and putting their point forwards even if it may be something I don't agree with, Farage, Tice, whoever, at least they have the courage of their convictions no mater how much I may disagree with them. But hiding away from a vaguely tough questioning is just cowardice and I'd really hope for more from the potential leader of our country. But then again I may have higher hopes for the future of the UK and our political leaders.
 
harpo_72 said:
Okay I will explain
There are 50 billionaires, a billion equals 1000 x 100 million
The population is 67 million
So 50 x 1000x100 is theoretically the total cash if we assume that each billionaire owns only 1 billion.
So that is 5000000million now divide by 67.
That gives you your 74.6k

The point is we don’t need that contribution from the population to run this country.
if you cost out what the manifestos are suggesting it’s not this level of contribution they are looking for ..
Now what’s your problem?
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Your maths is wrong. 50 billionaires, with a billion pounds each, gives you a total of 50 billion, or 50000000000. You then have to divide that by the population of 67 million, or 67000000. That would give each person £746 each not £74.6k.
 
harpo_72 said:
Okay I will explain
There are 50 billionaires, a billion equals 1000 x 100 million
The population is 67 million
So 50 x 1000x100 is theoretically the total cash if we assume that each billionaire owns only 1 billion.
So that is 5000000million now divide by 67.
That gives you your 74.6k

The point is we don’t need that contribution from the population to run this country.
if you cost out what the manifestos are suggesting it’s not this level of contribution they are looking for ..
Now what’s your problem?
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1 billion is 1,000 million, your arithmetic is wrong...
 
Neal's interview technique is entirely based on entertainment and ego by making himself look good while seeking some obscure item, pseudo anger or repetition designed to make the interviewee look bad I see no benefit to anyone for subjecting themselves to deliberate bear-bating attack - all his interviews with those MPs foolish enough to fall for the lure of the TV camera have been called 'car crash' events. Remember the BBC insist on retaining all editorial non-negotiable rights on what they select to edit/broadcast

I gave up watching AN a while back: IMO its a waste of any thinking persons time. These 'penetrating' style events are far from revealing and provides no real useful information as all the MPs have been on media courses to avoid answering questions so its just an abstract exercise: a game of dancing around topics using tricks to make someone stumble off guard.
 
drdel said:
Neal's interview technique is entirely based on entertainment and ego by making himself look good while seeking some obscure item, pseudo anger or repetition designed to make the interviewee look bad I see no benefit to anyone for subjecting themselves to deliberate bear-bating attack - all his interviews with those MPs foolish enough to fall for the lure of the TV camera have been called 'car crash' events. Remember the BBC insist on retaining all editorial non-negotiable rights on what they select to edit/broadcast

I gave up watching AN a while back: IMO its a waste of any thinking persons time. These 'penetrating' style events are far from revealing and provides no real useful information as all the MPs have been on media courses to avoid answering questions so its just an abstract exercise: a game of dancing around topics using tricks to make someone stumble off guard.
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I don't disagree with any of that but the BBC sold it as the 5 UK leaders taking part.
Poor show if Johnson is now too afraid to participate.
I can fully understand why his party wish to keep him and Rees Mogg as far away from an interview as possible. It seem that the more the public see of them the less they are inclined to vote for them.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I don't disagree with any of that but the BBC sold it as the 5 UK leaders taking part.
Poor show if Johnson is now too afraid to participate.
I can fully understand why his party wish to keep him and Rees Mogg as far away from an interview as possible. It seem that the more the public see of them the less they are inclined to vote for them.
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BBC should have made sure they had all the leaders signed up before flogging it as a all leaders grilling
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I don't disagree with any of that but the BBC sold it as the 5 UK leaders taking part.
Poor show if Johnson is now too afraid to participate.
I can fully understand why his party wish to keep him and Rees Mogg as far away from an interview as possible. It seem that the more the public see of them the less they are inclined to vote for them.
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Good to see that he's bright enough not to look a total plank like Krankie and the Corbynated Chicken both managed 😋
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I don't disagree with any of that but the BBC sold it as the 5 UK leaders taking part.
Poor show if Johnson is now too afraid to participate.
I can fully understand why his party wish to keep him and Rees Mogg as far away from an interview as possible. It seem that the more the public see of them the less they are inclined to vote for them.
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I agree with you (it must be coming up for the 'Season of goodwill') but I'd add that the constant belittling of our MPs by media ridicule has accelerated the low standing with which they're held by the public who feed off this garbage !

IMO Neal's own arrogance gets in the way of sensible debate - his personal opinions are somewhat questionable as for example, he denies the scientific climate evidence; which I think for a so-called intelligent rational person is strange.
 
drdel said:
Neal's interview technique is entirely based on entertainment and ego by making himself look good while seeking some obscure item, pseudo anger or repetition designed to make the interviewee look bad I see no benefit to anyone for subjecting themselves to deliberate bear-bating attack - all his interviews with those MPs foolish enough to fall for the lure of the TV camera have been called 'car crash' events. Remember the BBC insist on retaining all editorial non-negotiable rights on what they select to edit/broadcast

I gave up watching AN a while back: IMO its a waste of any thinking persons time. These 'penetrating' style events are far from revealing and provides no real useful information as all the MPs have been on media courses to avoid answering questions so its just an abstract exercise: a game of dancing around topics using tricks to make someone stumble off guard.
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Or alternatively it is a very rare opportunity for the public to see a potential leader have to answer probing questions 1 on 1 for any sustained period of time. A chance to see if any of them can cope with more than regurgitating pre-defined soundbites written by party HQ that supposedly play well on social media.

Says a lot to me who is willing to do that and who is not. Who is more concerned about their image than who is willing to argue their point and put forward their policies under pressure. Seems we'll just have to hope then the EU roll over in trade negotiations and it does not get too difficult for him......
 
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