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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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MegaSteve said:
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His constituents will advise he has history for going AWOL when the going gets tough... Nothing to do with being bright just lacking in courage to back his word with action...
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The whole thing has been a farce so far but if he had no intention of taking part he should have made it clear right from the start. Failing to take part now does make him seem to be afraid. I do think though, apart from the media stirring it up 90% of the electorate dont bother to watch.
 
As unfortunate the London Bridge incident is... it is only going to get more people choose BoJo over Corbyn. The amount of noise i see on social platforms on Corbyn & national security... This could have been a labour election.. but looks like Tories will walk it (despite Brexshit nonsense)
 
Mudball said:
As unfortunate the London Bridge incident is... it is only going to get more people choose BoJo over Corbyn. The amount of noise i see on social platforms on Corbyn & national security... This could have been a labour election.. but looks like Tories will walk it (despite Brexshit nonsense)
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Not sure why. Both parties have had opportunities to sort our dozy sentencing and release procedures out but both have failed the public.
 
Hacker Khan said:
Or alternatively it is a very rare opportunity for the public to see a potential leader have to answer probing questions 1 on 1 for any sustained period of time. A chance to see if any of them can cope with more than regurgitating pre-defined soundbites written by party HQ that supposedly play well on social media.

Says a lot to me who is willing to do that and who is not. Who is more concerned about their image than who is willing to argue their point and put forward their policies under pressure. Seems we'll just have to hope then the EU roll over in trade negotiations and it does not get too difficult for him......
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Sorry but its the Andrew Neal Show designed by him solely to make himself look good at the expense at whoever is foolish enough to sit opposite and enable him to maintain/enhance his reputation for being a ruthless interviewer (IMO accurately characterised as rude and arrogant) !!

By the way the 'public' rarely watch these programmes: viewers are usual a politically aware BBC minority (see the viewing stats) so it largely preaching to the entrenched.

There are suggestions the PM will be on the Marr show...
 
Johnson not willing to be interviewed by AN? Make up any old excuse you want, but the bottom line is that he and his entourage just know that AN would expose him as the blustering, often clueless, charlatan that he is. It’s the truth I would contend that every single person on this forum knows in their heart of hearts, but that not all are willing to admit. Which is a pity.
 
drdel said:
Sorry but its the Andrew Neal Show designed by him solely to make himself look good at the expense at whoever is foolish enough to sit opposite and enable him to maintain/enhance his reputation for being a ruthless interviewer (IMO accurately characterised as rude and arrogant) !!

By the way the 'public' rarely watch these programmes: viewers are usual a politically aware BBC minority (see the viewing stats) so it largely preaching to the entrenched.

There are suggestions the PM will be on the Marr show...
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There were stories earlier today that the BBC weren't going to have him on the Marr show until he'd agreed to do the AN interview. Don't know if it's true but lots of papers reporting it.......

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...s-to-interview-with-andrew-neil-a4300991.html

EDIT - now looks like they are going to let him after all.....

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/30/bbc-...s-johnson-row-andrew-neil-interview-11246272/
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Johnson not willing to be interviewed by AN? Make up any old excuse you want, but the bottom line is that he and his entourage just know that AN would expose him as the blustering, often clueless, charlatan that he is. It’s the truth I would contend that every single person on this forum knows in their heart of hearts, but that not all are willing to admit. Which is a pity.
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I think AN does it to every politician. Lets face it, every party has thrown some wild promises into the mix that just ask to be shot down, and AN is a master at it. Apart from the odd(apt?) forumite that thinks gold nuggets fall out of their favourite leader's rear, I don't think there's anything close to a good leader in any party.
 
Hobbit said:
I think AN does it to every politician. Lets face it, every party has thrown some wild promises into the mix that just ask to be shot down, and AN is a master at it. Apart from the odd(apt?) forumite that thinks gold nuggets fall out of their favourite leader's rear, I don't think there's anything close to a good leader in any party.
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As the great Sir Billy Connolly once said about politicians, we are led by the least among us...
 
drdel said:
Sorry but its the Andrew Neal Show designed by him solely to make himself look good at the expense at whoever is foolish enough to sit opposite and enable him to maintain/enhance his reputation for being a ruthless interviewer (IMO accurately characterised as rude and arrogant) !!

By the way the 'public' rarely watch these programmes: viewers are usual a politically aware BBC minority (see the viewing stats) so it largely preaching to the entrenched.

There are suggestions the PM will be on the Marr show...
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It is not 1975 anymore, people consume what happens on these type of programs through the media, traditional and increasingly social, afterwards. The aftermath of the Neil/ Corbyn interview led the headlines for a couple of days afterwards and no doubt was the subject of many 1000s of social media interactions. Just thinking that the only people who are influenced are the people actually watching it as it goes out is rather outdated.
 
Hobbit said:
Apart from the odd(apt?) forumite that thinks gold nuggets fall out of their favourite leader's rear
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Isn't that the Golden Egg that planted two billion trees , bit painful mind, well unless its more bantam than duck.

I'll get me coat.
 
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Hacker Khan said:
It is not 1975 anymore, people consume what happens on these type of programs through the media, traditional and increasingly social, afterwards. The aftermath of the Neil/ Corbyn interview led the headlines for a couple of days afterwards and no doubt was the subject of many 1000s of social media interactions. Just thinking that the only people who are influenced are the people actually watching it as it goes out is rather outdated.
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You can believe the soundbite twisted FB, Twitter guff and other out of context material rumour if you wish I prefer to research for the facts.
 
chrisd said:
Good to see that he's bright enough not to look a total plank like Krankie and the Corbynated Chicken both managed 😋
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I don't imagine his constituents will see it like 'he was bright enough' when they vote on 12th Dec.
More like a man/child who lacks any moral courage and runs away from Neil's interview.
If he cannot stand up to Neil how the hell is he going to manage Putin and Trump.

I imagine that the guy dressed up like a chicken will be following Johnson for the rest of the election.
 
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Looking more and more likely that the Torries and Labour will be smashed up here.

Independence will come, maybe not in my lifetime (although I really hope it does) but it is coming.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Johnson not willing to be interviewed by AN? Make up any old excuse you want, but the bottom line is that he and his entourage just know that AN would expose him as the blustering, often clueless, charlatan that he is. It’s the truth I would contend that every single person on this forum knows in their heart of hearts, but that not all are willing to admit. Which is a pity.
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Wouldn’t be bothered if he hit a small child while riding his bike, didn’t apologise, sold the NHS under the poor kids feet and the parents couldn’t afford healthcare, aslong as he gets brexit done.
Manifestos, QT, Andrew Neil, previous actions. All irrelevant as it’s all about brexit.
 
Outside of the 24 hour news channels and papers is there any sense of excitement or intrigue from the public about this upcoming election? Seems apathy and disinterest may prevail imho. December may have something to do with it but I think people have had enough, 3rd GE in 4.5 years. I just cant see or feel any sense of expectancy or passion about this election when out and about or chatting to people, almost like you wouldn't know it's happening.

I just don't think it's going to make any difference. We have a bad PM and Govt and we have a bad opposition. Swinson is unconvincing for me and for us way up north Sturgeon's becoming tired sounding, seems to have lost a bit of energy and focus.

After 9 years of Tory Govt we need a change but the prospect of change is unappealing given Corbyn and co so we will reluctantly still be better under this bad Government come Dec 13.
The parading of a smug Johnson just before Christmas is a prospect I abhor so I hope we end up just where we are now in parliament with a minority govt so he is made to look as average as he really is.

Abstaining is a very real choice at present.

Appreciate a lot of people have died for our freedoms but on this occasion not voting seems the best way to show how uninspired with leadership in politics we are.
 
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