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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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MegaSteve said:
I believe the government, in power, totally failed to support and actively undermined the people it tasked to get a 'proper' deal to enable the Brexit the electorate voted for...
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And what type of Brexit did they vote for?
The one I voted for was simple, leave the EU, preferably with a good deal otherwise without one. Seems to me it was undermined by those taking no deal off the table thus allowing the EU to play hard ball.
 
Piece said:
I see the logic here. In my view, once the country voted to leave, cross-party talks should have happened and the Brexit negotiations should have been conducted in that manner, rather than Tory only lead. I found it bizarre that just a few top Torys were going into bat for the UK, not a unified approach and agreement.
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How was that expected to work. Labour were playing political games and demanding we stay in the CU and Sm, Libs want to scrap Brexit, SNP want to scrap Brexit. it just couldn't happen as they all had hidden agendas that meant Brexit didn't stand a Scooby of a consensus.
 
murphthemog said:
Ok, so both are unsustainable, I can believe that. However, one of them is bonkers out there, and the other just a bit daft. The headlines imply they are at the same level.
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Too easily dismissed that, the next line was the Lib Dems was viable ... so what can we say but we have the reds and blues in cloud cuckoo land, do we want them both to have control of the purse strings ? They are as big as a disaster as each other if you listen to their opposing supporters.
 
SocketRocket said:
And what type of Brexit did they vote for?
The one I voted for was simple, leave the EU, preferably with a good deal otherwise without one. Seems to me it was undermined by those taking no deal off the table thus allowing the EU to play hard ball.
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Clearly you wish to continue with the scatter gun approach of blame... Whereas, from where I am sitting, there has only been one party in power and they've made a complete horlicks of delivering Brexit... And, unlike yourself, I have no faith in Boris delivering a 'proper' Brexit either... It'll be a mish mash smoke 'n mirror affair masquerading as "having got Brexit done"...
 
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harpo_72 said:
Too easily dismissed that, the next line was the Lib Dems was viable ... so what can we say but we have the reds and blues in cloud cuckoo land, do we want them both to have control of the purse strings ? They are as big as a disaster as each other if you listen to their opposing supporters.
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Don’t forget the IFS is just one “expert opinion” there are plenty of other “experts” who have supported both Labour and tory manifesto’s.
The IFS is especially unpopular with those supporting a No Deal Brexit.
 
pauldj42 said:
Don’t forget the IFS is just one “expert opinion” there are plenty of other “experts” who have supported both Labour and tory manifesto’s.
The IFS is especially unpopular with those supporting a No Deal Brexit.
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IFS appear to be a free for all punch bag depending on a point of view at any given moment.
 
In an extraordinary interview on the World at One, Unite leader Len McCluskey said that the Chief Rabbi’s decision to speak out was “wrong and quite extraordinary.” After hitting out at the Rabbi, McCluskey went on to say:

“The reality is this. Everybody should be concerned and sorry for the type of hurt that has been caused by the Jewish community.”​
Perhaps he saw Corbyn refuse to apologise to the Jewish community and thought it must be their fault. Not quite the line…
 
spongebob59 said:
In an extraordinary interview on the World at One, Unite leader Len McCluskey said that the Chief Rabbi’s decision to speak out was “wrong and quite extraordinary.” After hitting out at the Rabbi, McCluskey went on to say:

“The reality is this. Everybody should be concerned and sorry for the type of hurt that has been caused by the Jewish community.”​
Perhaps he saw Corbyn refuse to apologise to the Jewish community and thought it must be their fault. Not quite the line…
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If that was a Freudian slip, he shouldn't be allowed out of the house without his carer.

If it was NOT a Freudian slip...
 
harpo_72 said:
Too easily dismissed that, the next line was the Lib Dems was viable ... so what can we say but we have the reds and blues in cloud cuckoo land, do we want them both to have control of the purse strings ? They are as big as a disaster as each other if you listen to their opposing supporters.
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I didn't bother reading about the Lib Dems, they are an irrelevance.
 
Old Skier said:
IFS appear to be a free for all punch bag depending on a point of view at any given moment.
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Exactly mate, I thought it was a decent independent site, but as it’s become popular the knives have come out.
 
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