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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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MegaSteve said:
Team tory have had three long years to "to get Brexit done" and have totally failed to deliver... All down to their own total incompetence... Believe any deal Boris delivers will be merely a smoke 'n mirror one...
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Surely you dont believe that? We all know that Brexit transcends party lines and much of the delay has been caused by cross party groups.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I know they could all be anything. I was just wondering. though I did hear a number of something like 450,000 young people registered. Not sure if that's since the election called or in the last few days.
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I wonder how many of them will be students registering at their home addresses with the election coming so close to the end of term.
 
SocketRocket said:
Surely you dont believe that? We all know that Brexit transcends party lines and much of the delay has been caused by cross party groups.
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I believe the government, in power, totally failed to support and actively undermined the people it tasked to get a 'proper' deal to enable the Brexit the electorate voted for...
 
pauldj42 said:
Channel 4 Leaders debate on Climate Change, boris not attending.
No date set for his one on one with Andrew Neil.

What’s he running from? Maybe it’s his lies and the inability to answer questions without an ear piece?
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Or maybe he's waiting till the 'last minute' so that he can attack whatever everyone else has said, whilst leaving little time for them to counter what he says. I just hope Andrew Neil is going to give him the same grilling he gave the others.
 
MegaSteve said:
I believe the government, in power, totally failed to support and actively undermined the people it tasked to get a 'proper' deal to enable the Brexit the electorate voted for...
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I see the logic here. In my view, once the country voted to leave, cross-party talks should have happened and the Brexit negotiations should have been conducted in that manner, rather than Tory only lead. I found it bizarre that just a few top Torys were going into bat for the UK, not a unified approach and agreement.
 
Hobbit said:
Or maybe he's waiting till the 'last minute' so that he can attack whatever everyone else has said, whilst leaving little time for them to counter what he says. I just hope Andrew Neil is going to give him the same grilling he gave the others.
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That is my thinking on it...Cummings might think it a clever ploy - but frankly it seems rather pathetic to me.
 
Hobbit said:
Or maybe he's waiting till the 'last minute' so that he can attack whatever everyone else has said, whilst leaving little time for them to counter what he says. I just hope Andrew Neil is going to give him the same grilling he gave the others.
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Or maybe he’s dodging it until he’s been well rehearsed.
Wouldn’t be too shocked if it doesn’t happen.
 
Piece said:
I see the logic here. In my view, once the country voted to leave, cross-party talks should have happened and the Brexit negotiations should have been conducted in that manner, rather than Tory only lead. I found it bizarre that just a few top Torys were going into bat for the UK, not a unified approach and agreement.
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Don’t come on here with your sensible point of view.;)
 
pauldj42 said:
Or maybe he’s dodging it until he’s been well rehearsed.
Wouldn’t be too shocked if it doesn’t happen.
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And I suspect that some won't give a damn as they don't really care about the width and depth of Tory Party policy nor do some really care Johnson's deceits and indiscretions - all that some need to know they already know - that Johnson is their man for Brexit. Job done. Sadly. Not ALL; not MOST; not MANY, just SOME :)
 
ColchesterFC said:
Even ignoring the money that has been pledged to be spent there are other things in the Labour manifesto that just don't seem to have been properly thought through. One of their pledges is to plant 2 billion trees by 2040. An admiral aim but when you look at the numbers I can't work out how they can possibly hope to achieve it.

2 billion trees by 2040 is 100 million trees per year for the next 20 years.
100 million trees per year is just under 274000 trees per day (only approx as I I haven't accounted for the extra days for leap years)
274000 trees per day is just under 11500 trees to be planted per hour, every hour, for the next 20 years.

But it's not just Labour......

The Lib Dems have pledged 60 million trees per year - just under 7000 per hour
The Tories have pledged 30 million trees per year - around 3500 per hour

Leaving aside where they are going to source all these trees and the costs involved with buying them the manpower involved to plant that amount of trees would be vast. Assuming it's possible for someone to plant 10 trees per hour, the Labour plans would require 1150 people (approx) planting trees 24 hours per day for the next 20 years.

EDIT - source for the numbers pledged - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50578207
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some guy from the forestry commission says this many tress equates to 8 x wales (in land) for a birch, a relatively small tree.
 
From the newswires, Labour is trailing BoJo in the polls...

So how much should you hate Jeremy in order to choose Boris? This is becoming like the American election - Voting Trump because you hate Clinton. Personality politics above Policies & ideology .... When did we stoop so low?
 
Mudball said:
From the newswires, Labour is trailing BoJo in the polls...

So how much should you hate Jeremy in order to choose Boris? This is becoming like the American election - Voting Trump because you hate Clinton. Personality politics above Policies & ideology .... When did we stoop so low?
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Thats Labours problem, they knew it was an issue in the polls/ratings they could possibly have tackled but the unions hold sway.
 
spongebob59 said:
some guy from the forestry commission says this many tress equates to 8 x wales (in land) for a birch, a relatively small tree.
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And the logistics and fuel burnt to transport, clear land and plant these trees will negate their carbon absorption for decades- perhaps we'll replace the EU's farm subsidy with a tree planting subsidy and let farmers sit and watch them grow. It might not help food prices through.

I'm not sure our Politicians think any further than the next soundbite.
 
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