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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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chrisd said:
We're doing ok as a country and I reckon steady improvement is the answer. Corbyn imo will not do anything but bankrupt the country as Labour nearly did last time
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We’re not doing ok as a Country though are we, if we were people would be telling us all the positives the tories have brought in and done rather than focus on why Labour is bad.
boris’s policies seem to be damage repair rather than bright future. I agree due to the global financial crash something had to be done, but how long do we keep blaming labour and 2009, the Government have admitted austerity is over, yet those suffering are not even mentioned in the tory manifesto, in fact more money was promised for potholes than social care.
By the way, I’m very comfortable and fortunate, it still riles me to see nothing about closing the poverty gap.
 
drdel said:
Yup: we need to keep our powder dry with testing international times ahead. In particular the Basel lll regulations are coming (2.6tn Euros exposure) so the Euro Banks will be put under considerable liquidity strain which will hit the poorer/vulnerable members hard and impact the EU's flexibility against debt and the trade 'wars' won't help. Macron and Merkel are already bitching between themselves on where support, if any, can be found if EU recession is to be avoided.

If Labour get in then we'll be cap in hand to anyone who will listen and then jack up the interest rate that will be passed on to anyone with a loan.
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Really? Look at the economic forecasts for Brexit, look how long deals have taken with the EU to be negotiated and we are already threatened with walking away at the end of 2020 if he doesn’t get a deal.
So again the spectre of no deal looms large.
The IFS also fact checked the tory manifesto and it doesn’t add up, are we sure boris isn’t going to get it just as wrong?
 
pauldj42 said:
Really? Look at the economic forecasts for Brexit, look how long deals have taken with the EU to be negotiated and we are already threatened with walking away at the end of 2020 if he doesn’t get a deal.
So again the spectre of no deal looms large.
The IFS also fact checked the tory manifesto and it doesn’t add up, are we sure boris isn’t going to get it just as wrong?
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Don't confuse the need for a deal. A deal makes trade easier than No deal but not having one doesn't mean no trade. If a company is running a 15% margin, and is then subject to a 5% tariff there is wriggle room. If a company is hit with a tariff, what tariffs will the UK apply to EU goods and will it use those tariffs gained as subsidies? Will the UK look to do what Ireland did with Corporation Tax, which has been a great success in stimulating their economy.

The deal/no deal isn't set in stone forever, and there are mitigations that a good govt would apply. Armageddon isn't just around the corner.
 
Hobbit said:
Don't confuse the need for a deal. A deal makes trade easier than No deal but not having one doesn't mean no trade. If a company is running a 15% margin, and is then subject to a 5% tariff there is wriggle room. If a company is hit with a tariff, what tariffs will the UK apply to EU goods and will it use those tariffs gained as subsidies? Will the UK look to do what Ireland did with Corporation Tax, which has been a great success in stimulating their economy.

The deal/no deal isn't set in stone forever, and there are mitigations that a good govt would apply. Armageddon isn't just around the corner.
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Not suggesting armageddon, more the fact we keep hearing the get brexit done being spouted, even if we leave in Jan we could be dealing with it for years! And with no idea if the economy will suffer for 1 day, 1 week or or or. And it’s effect on the tory manifesto.
 
pauldj42 said:
Not suggesting armageddon, more the fact we keep hearing the get brexit done being spouted, even if we leave in Jan we could be dealing with it for years! And with no idea if the economy will suffer for 1 day, 1 week or or or. And it’s effect on the tory manifesto.
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And how long is Jeremy going to take to negotiate a new deal?
 
pauldj42 said:
Not suggesting armageddon, more the fact we keep hearing the get brexit done being spouted, even if we leave in Jan we could be dealing with it for years! And with no idea if the economy will suffer for 1 day, 1 week or or or. And it’s effect on the tory manifesto.
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Whoever forms the next government if they really want to move on and get business going again only have two options, get Brexit done or bin Brexit. The stupidity of Labour to think we can just go on and on with this because they cannot be honest about what they want will IMO get us deeper in the mire than the current government has managed through indecision.
 
pauldj42 said:
Not suggesting armageddon, more the fact we keep hearing the get brexit done being spouted, even if we leave in Jan we could be dealing with it for years! And with no idea if the economy will suffer for 1 day, 1 week or or or. And it’s effect on the tory manifesto.
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Boris has said that we'll leave with no deal if they dont sort a deal by 31st Dec 2020
 
ColchesterFC said:
3 months. And then after a further 3 months we get to vote on Corbyn's Remain (but not as good as actually remaining) deal and Remain.
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Not seeing the question you’re answering, but I can guess it’s really clever and condescending.:rolleyes:
For the record, again and again, not you, but for the hard of reading.
I’m happy to leave, want to leave and if boris or the man on the moon achieves it then good.
My point is how can any of these manifesto’s (but today we’re discussing the tory one) guarantee any of the future spends.
 
Old Skier said:
Whoever forms the next government if they really want to move on and get business going again only have two options, get Brexit done or bin Brexit. The stupidity of Labour to think we can just go on and on with this because they cannot be honest about what they want will IMO get us deeper in the mire than the current government has managed through indecision.
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Who’s talking about Labour?
Nicky Morgan today saying leaving on 31st Jan is only for the public as there’s still 80% of the work to be done, so 80% by 31st Dec or it’s all been for nothing and we play WTO Rules.
So if the economy struggles what’s the plan?
 
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