AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

[chrisd]

Indeed it is. Doesn't stop you being willing to pay more if asked.

Oh it does, I paid till it bled at times when I had my business, and it stopped me being able to expand the business at times when I could have taken more staff on or paid better wages to employees .

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

'Catastrophic Brexit'. That term is so overused and sensationalist. Maybe we will maybe we wont, maybe we will have a Catastrophic remain, or a crash in remain or a cliff edge remain or maybe we wont. Why would all this money disappear if we leave the EU, we will still have demand for products and services and business will want to provide it, other countries will want to sell into our large economy and we will want to sell into theirs.

Let's just have 'Catastophic Corbyn' or a 'Cliff-edge Corbyn' instead...

...based upon all of those forecasts than no-one should believe because the forecasters always get their forecasts wrong.

See @jp5 post #1611

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I guess the newspapers are getting their calculations wrong as well.

“According to the most recent figures from the Office for National Statistics, an income of £75,300 places an earner in the top 5 per cent.

Under Labour's plan for a 45p rate on earnings over £80,000, he would pay an extra £4.81 per week if he earned £85,000 per year”

 

[SocketRocket]

I think the Labour Manifesto should be renamed 'How to ruin a country in five years'

 

[SocketRocket]

Let's just have 'Catastophic Corbyn' or a 'Cliff-edge Corbyn' instead...

...based upon all of those forecasts than no-one should believe because the forecasters always get their forecasts wrong.

See @jp5 post #1611

I agree many forecasts have been very wrong but I've not seen anyone use 'Catastrophic or Cliff Edge Corbyn'

Simple question: Do you honestly think the Labour Manifesto is realistic and affordable? I will await the Conservative one before commenting on that.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I agree many forecasts have been very wrong but I've not seen anyone use 'Catastrophic or Cliff Edge Corbyn'

Simple question: Do you honestly think the Labour Manifesto is realistic and affordable? I will await the Conservative one before commenting on that.

I've just made them up

Do I honestly think it realistic or affordable, I don't know - probably not. But what is 'affordable' in the days of mega-billions banking bailouts. What I do know is that this country needs a step change in provision of public services such as is being offered by Labour. If you don't have much money in the UK these days things are pretty dire, and under the Conservatives a tweak here and big headline programme there just isn't going to work.

But as I said in an earlier post - I have a feeling that the Labour Party Manifesto is aimed primarily a traditional Labour support in Leave voting constituencies - support that is currently thinking of voting TBP or Tory. Offer that part of the electorate significant improvements in many of the areas that drove these Labour voters to vote to Leave - and they might stick with Labour.

 

[SocketRocket]

I've just made them up

Do I honestly think it realistic or affordable, I don't know - probably not. But what is 'affordable' in the days of mega-billions banking bailouts. What I do know is that this country needs a step change in provision of public services such as is being offered by Labour. If you don't have much money in the UK these days things are pretty dire, and under the Conservatives a tweak here and big headline programme there just isn't going to work.

But as I said in an earlier post - I have a feeling that the Labour Party Manifesto is aimed primarily a traditional Labour support in Leave voting constituencies - support that is currently thinking of voting TBP or Tory. Offer that part of the electorate significant improvements in many of the areas that drove these Labour voters to vote to Leave - and they might stick with Labour.

Ill tell you whats affordable, its what we can afford and even those bailouts weren't £85 Billion+ a year.

So do you think these people are too stupid to not see through these outlandish plans?

 

[Old Skier]

I'm not reading it - I saw the headline...

And your fell for a headline, really.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And your fell for a headline, really.

I didn't - I noticed it.

Do you think it honest?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Ill tell you whats affordable, its what we can afford and even those bailouts weren't £85 Billion+ a year.

So do you think these people are too stupid to not see through these outlandish plans?

What - the Brexit non-plans and economic non-forecasts?

I strongly suspect that all know exactly what they want in respect of public services - and that they feel (or were encouraged to believe) that Leaving the EU will deliver.

 

[Old Skier]

I guess the newspapers are getting their calculations wrong as well.

“According to the most recent figures from the Office for National Statistics, an income of £75,300 places an earner in the top 5 per cent.

Under Labour's plan for a 45p rate on earnings over £80,000, he would pay an extra £4.81 per week if he earned £85,000 per year”

All sorts of figures coming out today, Inland revenue puts it slightly higher than the IFS. Only a couple more weeks of claim and counter claim full of information and disinformation.
The people in their puzzle palaces obviously don't realise that well over 90% of those walking down to the polling station have made up their mind.

 

[Old Skier]

I didn't - I noticed it.

Do you think it honest?

So you didn't fall for it but your suggesting that others will. Do I think it's honest. No more honest or dishonest than the crock of crap that's coming out of those being interviewed by the media or what some post on social media.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

All sorts of figures coming out today, Inland revenue puts it slightly higher than the IFS. Only a couple more weeks of claim and counter claim full of information and disinformation.
The people in their puzzle palaces obviously don't realise that well over 90% of those walking down to the polling station have made up their mind.

I’ve got no doubt in that mate, it does get very confusing when people make a simple question difficult.
There’s only 2 choices unfortunately and that’s Labour or tory, yes you have other options, but I genuinely only see them as protest votes.

We really could do with a genuine centre party.

 

[patricks148]

They won't have to push because they know the fixed-term parliament act has another election coming along in 5yrs time - max.

or if the tory's win and things don't go there way we might have another before then

 

[Deleted member 16999]

or if the tory's win and things don't go there way we might have another before then

Sadly I reckon we’ll have another GE by summer next year, the only positive is that it may be with 2 different leaders for Labour and tories.

 

[patricks148]

I think the Labour Manifesto should be renamed 'How to ruin a country in five years'

as apposed to the great job the Conservatives have done in the last 9 years

 

[Beezerk]

We really could do with a genuine centre party.

Or a decent Labour leader with a good team around him.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Or a decent Labour leader with a good team around him.

They need dragging out top to bottom sadly.

 

[Old Skier]

Or a decent Labour leader with a good team around him.

I'd love to see the whole of the present 650 barred from office and a fresh bunch in

 

[Hobbit]

Ill tell you whats affordable, its what we can afford and even those bailouts weren't £85 Billion+ a year.

So do you think these people are too stupid to not see through these outlandish plans?

The bank bailouts were £137bn in total, to which £110bn has been repaid.