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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Cool - so you'll be able to find the the report that tells us how many have been built since 2015. I'm not expecting all of those 66k to have been built since the May 2015 general election - and won't bother looking to see whether or not these 66k are affordable starter homes - though the Gov says they are.

Thing is. I rather trust Andrew Neil's researching and researchers, so if Neil says something to challenge a minister I tend to err on the side of believing him. He is not - as far as I have seen - one for leaving himself open to comebacks.

Just done a brief search. The Gov.uk site has the number of builds, broken down into quarters. Its consistently ran at around 30k to 40k a quarter. That includes all houses. Not sure about different rules in different counties but I do know of one planning authority that stipulates that 10% of all builds must be affordable housing. Some builders get around this by having one estate with 20% affordable housing but the estate just down the road might be 100% 'posh' houses.

As an aside, a significant number of people move up the chain, typically its an affordable home at the bottom end of the chain thats freed up. Who knows, maybe things aren't where they should be but maybe its not as bad as portrayed.
 
as long as its not conservative.... i don't mind:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
I've deliberately not mentioned the parties involved as that will twist everyone's mind. Here is the thing though, what if the decent local candidate IS Conservative? I'm not saying they are but what if. Could you do it?

The same question could be put to staunch Tories who dislike Boris or have a clown as an mp. Could you vote for a really good labour mp?
 
I've deliberately not mentioned the parties involved as that will twist everyone's mind. Here is the thing though, what if the decent local candidate IS Conservative? I'm not saying they are but what if. Could you do it?

The same question could be put to staunch Tories who dislike Boris or have a clown as an mp. Could you vote for a really good labour mp?
My uncle is a conservative councilor and he is very good, he is in tune with the local area and has had a positive affect ... but the answer is no, as I do not hold the same fundamental ideas or values.
 
I've deliberately not mentioned the parties involved as that will twist everyone's mind. Here is the thing though, what if the decent local candidate IS Conservative? I'm not saying they are but what if. Could you do it?

The same question could be put to staunch Tories who dislike Boris or have a clown as an mp. Could you vote for a really good labour mp?
No Never.
 
The website https://www.labourmanifesto.co.uk/ has been set up by Labour to explain their policies in more detail on the day they they launched their manifesto. And is another great example of the British electorate being treated with respect and intelligence by a party that wants to gain our trust to run the country at a time of great national importance in an uncertain fake news society. #factcheck
 
I've deliberately not mentioned the parties involved as that will twist everyone's mind. Here is the thing though, what if the decent local candidate IS Conservative? I'm not saying they are but what if. Could you do it?

The same question could be put to staunch Tories who dislike Boris or have a clown as an mp. Could you vote for a really good labour mp?

Really tricky one. I think it has become even more difficult now as the big hitters and policy makers in both parties veer off the the relative extremes. I'd like to think I could but in reality when I think about the type of person who that would facilitate to become important decision makers in a government I probably couldn't. And fully expect that to apply to people on both sides of the political landscape.
 
I've deliberately not mentioned the parties involved as that will twist everyone's mind. Here is the thing though, what if the decent local candidate IS Conservative? I'm not saying they are but what if. Could you do it?

The same question could be put to staunch Tories who dislike Boris or have a clown as an mp. Could you vote for a really good labour mp?

Never in Scotland, they are truly awful.
If I still lived in England yes.

BTW There is Channel 4's Snow treating his viewers a totally impartial view of what Scottish folk think about politics by visiting the two Tory areas.
Following the same routes as Johnson and Gove.
Just Running Scared
 
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So the BBC talk about the costing of the Labour manifesto but not once mention the cost of putting back in to state control the mail, rail, water etc ??
 
I’ll wait to see the Manifesto before I could comment on that as I don’t know.

Manifesto released and it contains a pledge to reverse the cuts to corporation tax over the last decade. I think they've worded it very cleverly by saying that income tax and NI won't increase for anyone apart from the top 5%, those earning over £80k per year. But this rise in corporation tax will hit hundreds of thousands of people earning well below that level.
 
So the BBC talk about the costing of the Labour manifesto but not once mention the cost of putting back in to state control the mail, rail, water etc ??
Probably because it doesn’t have a value yet.
Of cause that will be inflated so the fact-check team can make some political hay with it.
 
Probably because it doesn’t have a value yet.
Of cause that will be inflated so the fact-check team can make some political hay with it.

Royal Mail is now much cheaper than it was yesterday after its share price fell over 14% today, and would expect it to fall further still in the event of a Labour GE win.
 
Probably because it doesn’t have a value yet.
Of cause that will be inflated so the fact-check team can make some political hay with it.

More than happy to help there.

The same borrowing that both main parties will need to do will be a reckless act of financial suicide if done by Labour and a sensible investment in the future of the country if done by the Tories. #factcheck.
 
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