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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Old Skier said:
Foreign students are helping to prop up the cost of university fees in Scotland as they are providing above cost for the courses so to keep taxes down it would be tempting to adopt SNP tactics. Just a 2x2 might make 4.
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Sounds like a very good business model .. we get free education our educational system gets a cash injection. I would revert back to it now that the Universities are so wealthy.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Only heard a snippet of her listing all who are responsible and so absolving government - her government - of the last ten years of any responsibility when it is her government that has been cutting funding to those she listed as being responsible.

And just been listening to Liz Truss being quizzed by Andrew Neil on Politics Live about Affordable Homes.

Neil: So in 2015 your government pledged to build 200,00 affordable starter homes, how many have been built?
Truss: Not sure
Neil: It's an easy number to remember
Truss: Don't know
Neil: It's zero
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I presume your going to point out the windfall tax porkie that McDonald told on the same program, just for balance obviously.
 
patricks148 said:
Jo swinson getting nailed last night about her Green credentials and her use of the train v;s air travel and who should get taxed on it..

she had used the train 9 times comp to 32 flights... busted
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What a naughty girl .. guess her new year's resolution is to use the train .. but they better make them reliable first.

But has she got any illegitimate children or made up quotes in a national paper?
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Only heard a snippet of her listing all who are responsible and so absolving government - her government - of the last ten years of any responsibility when it is her government that has been cutting funding to those she listed as being responsible.

And just been listening to Liz Truss being quizzed by Andrew Neil on Politics Live about Affordable Homes.

Neil: So in 2015 your government pledged to build 200,00 affordable starter homes, how many have been built?
Truss: Not sure
Neil: It's an easy number to remember
Truss: Don't know
Neil: It's zero
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Some data....
47% (22,985) of homes started were delivered outside the Affordable Homes Programme
46% (21,155) of homes completed were delivered outside the Affordable Homes Programme
51% (21,442) of affordable starts were delivered through Section 106 agreements
54% (20,757) of affordable completions were delivered through Section 106 agreements

Labour are promising a 100,00 homes; not necessarily and most likely not houses!
 
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harpo_72 said:
Sounds like a very good business model .. we get free education our educational system gets a cash injection. I would revert back to it now that the Universities are so wealthy.
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Might be if we didn't have so many Universities who will all be trying to outdo each other. Number of foreign students in compared to the now large number of universities would have to be massive. Better idea would be to tax everyone.
 
drdel said:
Some data....
47% (22,985) of homes started were delivered outside the Affordable Homes Programme
46% (21,155) of homes completed were delivered outside the Affordable Homes Programme
51% (21,442) of affordable starts were delivered through Section 106 agreements
54% (20,757) of affordable completions were delivered through Section 106 agreements

Labour are promising a 150,00 homes; not necessarily and most likely not houses!
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I think that SILH may have got the dates slightly wrong, been trying to find it on catch up.
 
pauldj42 said:
It is true, the link you’ve posted are not those Andrew Neil was on about.
He’s on about the tory announcement in the link below.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...07793/no-homes-built-under-flagship-2015-tory
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I think you will find the money was used to purchase brown field sites that would be cleared to allow new home building. This obviously would not produce results straight away and not directly in home numbers but creates the infastructure where homes can be built.
 
SocketRocket said:
I think you will find the money was used to purchase brown field sites that would be cleared to allow new home building. This obviously would not produce results straight away and not directly in home numbers but creates the infastructure where homes can be built.
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I was simply trying to be helpful in clarifying which houses Andrew Neil was talking about.
 
Interesting one for me. I can't see that any of the national parties are worth voting for but I have no independent to vote for. Do I spoil? I did that last time and I don't want to two elections on the trot. I'm starting to look closer at the actual local candidates now and seeing if I can bring myself to vote for one of them on that basis. My local MP is awful so I wont vote for him. That leaves the rest. One is starting to stand out as a good local person but he stands for a national party I have never voted for, never could see myself voting for. Do I break the habit of a lifetime though? Hell fire this is a tough one.

Anyone else in a similar situation?
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Interesting one for me. I can't see that any of the national parties are worth voting for but I have no independent to vote for. Do I spoil? I did that last time and I don't want to two elections on the trot. I'm starting to look closer at the actual local candidates now and seeing if I can bring myself to vote for one of them on that basis. My local MP is awful so I wont vote for him. That leaves the rest. One is starting to stand out as a good local person but he stands for a national party I have never voted for, never could see myself voting for. Do I break the habit of a lifetime though? Hell fire this is a tough one.

Anyone else in a similar situation?
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You need to balance what the individual can do locally v his party. He will probably be constrained by the whip on how he votes on national matters so anything he can do locally will include the party line.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Interesting one for me. I can't see that any of the national parties are worth voting for but I have no independent to vote for. Do I spoil? I did that last time and I don't want to two elections on the trot. I'm starting to look closer at the actual local candidates now and seeing if I can bring myself to vote for one of them on that basis. My local MP is awful so I wont vote for him. That leaves the rest. One is starting to stand out as a good local person but he stands for a national party I have never voted for, never could see myself voting for. Do I break the habit of a lifetime though? Hell fire this is a tough one.

Anyone else in a similar situation?
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I suspect most voters will still do what they've always done - you're one of the rare 'thinking' citizens: unfortunately.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Interesting one for me. I can't see that any of the national parties are worth voting for but I have no independent to vote for. Do I spoil? I did that last time and I don't want to two elections on the trot. I'm starting to look closer at the actual local candidates now and seeing if I can bring myself to vote for one of them on that basis. My local MP is awful so I wont vote for him. That leaves the rest. One is starting to stand out as a good local person but he stands for a national party I have never voted for, never could see myself voting for. Do I break the habit of a lifetime though? Hell fire this is a tough one.

Anyone else in a similar situation?
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as long as its not conservative.... i don't mind:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Interesting one for me. I can't see that any of the national parties are worth voting for but I have no independent to vote for. Do I spoil? I did that last time and I don't want to two elections on the trot. I'm starting to look closer at the actual local candidates now and seeing if I can bring myself to vote for one of them on that basis. My local MP is awful so I wont vote for him. That leaves the rest. One is starting to stand out as a good local person but he stands for a national party I have never voted for, never could see myself voting for. Do I break the habit of a lifetime though? Hell fire this is a tough one.

Anyone else in a similar situation?
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My father took an issue to his local MP, many years ago, she was absolutely fantastic. Went way beyond expectations. Resolved the issue, and also called in several times afterwards over the period of 2 years to ensure there were no repeats.

But there again, it was Mo Mowlem and she was outstanding.

I'd say vote for who you think will be best for the local area.
 
SocketRocket said:
Well if Andrew Neil says it has to be true:

https://www.construction.co.uk/cons...er-66-000-affordable-homes-built-in-2015-govt
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Cool - so you'll be able to find the the report that tells us how many have been built since 2015. I'm not expecting all of those 66k to have been built since the May 2015 general election - and won't bother looking to see whether or not these 66k are affordable starter homes - though the Gov says they are.

Thing is. I rather trust Andrew Neil's researching and researchers, so if Neil says something to challenge a minister I tend to err on the side of believing him. He is not - as far as I have seen - one for leaving himself open to comebacks.
 
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