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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Is no one else disillusioned with how inept our politicians seem to be.
I couldn’t care less who they represent, they all seem miles out of touch with modern society.
The Atmosphere in the commons is always like a poisonous office, where no work gets done because of all the bitching and shouting.
We must be a laughing stock to the rest of the world.
 
BrianM said:
Is no one else disillusioned with how inept our politicians seem to be.
I couldn’t care less who they represent, they all seem miles out of touch with modern society.
The Atmosphere in the commons is always like a poisonous office, where no work gets done because of all the bitching and shouting.
We must be a laughing stock to the rest of the world.
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Its nothing new, Brexit has just brought it to our attention and exposed what a bunch of self edifying, out of touch people many of them are.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Unlike you I don't look at the colour of the rosette someone is wearing before I decide whether or not criticise them. Abbott deserves much of the criticism she gets, as do Johnson, Rees Mogg, Cleverley, Corbyn, McDonnell, Swinson and many others.
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But once again you could of asked the question you asked me to numerous posters over the past few days and you haven’t, true to form you played the poster and not the post.
 
pauldj42 said:
But once again you could of asked the question you asked me to numerous posters over the past few days and you haven’t, true to form you played the poster and not the post.
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What question was that then? I didn't ask you a question. You complained about Diane Abbott getting insulted on here and I simply pointed out that you hadn't had the same reaction to insults directed towards others. It's almost as if you're so blinkered that you only object to criticism aimed at Labour politicians. But that can't be right as that would make you a hypocrite.
 
ColchesterFC said:
What question was that then? I didn't ask you a question. You complained about Diane Abbott getting insulted on here and I simply pointed out that you hadn't had the same reaction to insults directed towards others. It's almost as if you're so blinkered that you only object to criticism aimed at Labour politicians. But that can't be right as that would make you a hypocrite.
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Obviously in your opinion I’m the only hypocrite on here as I’m the only one you question.:rolleyes:
 
BrianM said:
Is no one else disillusioned with how inept our politicians seem to be.
I couldn’t care less who they represent, they all seem miles out of touch with modern society.
The Atmosphere in the commons is always like a poisonous office, where no work gets done because of all the bitching and shouting.
We must be a laughing stock to the rest of the world.
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Indeed we are. I have a German colleague who tells me we are the butt of most jokes on the satirical news programs over there along with Trump. And as we all know, German comedy is no laughing matter.
 
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pauldj42 said:
Obviously in your opinion I’m the only hypocrite on here as I’m the only one you question.:rolleyes:
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Once again, I haven't asked you a question or questioned you, I've simply responded to what you have posted. There are plenty of people on here that I would consider to post in a manner that I would consider to be hypocritical. And I'm sure there are some that think the same of some of my posts. You think that Diane Abbott has been receiving unfair criticism on here. I just pointed out that several others (Tories) have received similar or more criticism but you chose not to complain about those posts.
 
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I've never met the IRA." - photographic evidence.
He met with Sinn Fein, subtle difference.

"I didn't lay a wreath at the grave of 4 terrorists that killed Israeli athletes." Photographic evidence - and some great footage on a piece by the Beeb.

The wreath-laying took place during a commemorative ceremony for victims of the 1985 Israeli air strikes on the PLO headquarters in Tunis, the cemetery were the ceremony took place also contained the graves of the 4 terrorists.

"The Labour Party has investigated every single case of antisemitism." (from last night's debate) - A Labour councillor has today said there are over 100 cases still to be investigated.

Again, the councillor who made has said over 100 cases still need investigating actually said “The party haven’t bothered to investigate the cases properly or make decisions.”
So again a subtle difference between Corbyn believing they have been and are being dealt with and the councillor who is unhappy with the findings.

Agreed Corbyn is untrustworthy, but I’m totally unaware of any MP who has ever had so many lies proven and exposed as boris.

Even last night he totally and utterly dodged the question on “telling the truth in politics”

And it was only this summer the court of appeal founds the selling of arms to Saudi Arabia illegal.

Three judges said that a decision made in secret in 2016 had led them to decide that Boris Johnson, Jeremy Hunt and Liam Fox and other key ministers had illegally signed off on arms exports without properly assessing the risk to civilians.
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Gerry Adams was Sinn Fein, Martin McGuinness was IRA - FACT.
Tunisia wreath laying. There's a great piece done by the Beeb, in which Chris Williamson is questioned about it, which also has the photographic evidence. There's also a piece showing Corbyn being questioned on it. He sweats up and get flustered like you wouldn't believe. He even says that he didn't know all the graves that were part of the ceremony.
Antisemitic investigations; have a look at the levels of interference by the leader's office in the investigations, inc by Seamus Milne and argghh - female senior manager whose name escapes me - all the info is out there. You're playing with words, making excuses about not investigated properly or make decisions. He will have known something so controversial would have come up in the debate, and would have been fully briefed. Corbyn lied last night.

I'm not defending Johnson - hell, I even struggle to say Boris. He's a disgrace of a PM, nor do I doubt the validity of your claims about him. But why do you continually defend Corbyn, then say "Corbyn is untrustworthy." He's either believable or he isn't. And "untrustworthy - not able to be relied on as honest or truthful."

BTW, I'm with you on Diane Abbot. She's got a first class record as a constituency MP, and the work she's done on various Select Committees, especially in the area of mental health, is fantastic. Has she been promoted to her level of incompetency? I don't know. But it is worth looking at some of the stuff she's done on the Beeb with Michael Portillo... she comes across as a racist. For me, that's her failing. Great Constituency MP but flawed in other areas.
 
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Any chance of something that proves it wrong instead of just giving BS as the sole base of your argument.
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Google it and stop asking to be spoon fed info, it's just looks childish.
There is nothing to prove wrong , its just a total non story seized upon and fed to gullible types who lap it up and share it with out second thought to it's actual authenticity.
How about you prove you're right....😂
 
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ColchesterFC said:
Once again, I haven't asked you a question or questioned you, I've simply responded to what you have posted. There are plenty of people on here that I would consider to post in a manner that I would consider to be hypocritical. And I'm sure there are some that think the same of some of my posts. You think that Diane Abbott has been receiving unfair criticism on here. I just pointed out that several others (Tories) have received similar or more criticism but you chose not to complain about those posts.
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Do I really think Diane Abbott has been receiving unfair criticism? Or is it more the fact when people mention boris’s lies we get all sorts of responses deflecting that all politicians lie and boris hasn’t lied, it’s lazy posting etc etc.
I’m simply questioning why some posters don’t apply the same standard to other politicians.
ChrisD came on and discussed my post, didn’t try to be clever or question me, simple discussion, quite a few on here could learn from him.
 
Hobbit said:
Gerry Adams was Sinn Fein, Martin McGuinness was IRA - FACT.
Tunisia wreath laying. There's a great piece done by the Beeb, in which Chris Williamson is questioned about it, which also has the photographic evidence. There's also a piece showing Corbyn being questioned on it. He sweats up and get flustered like you wouldn't believe. He even says that he didn't know all the graves that were part of the ceremony.
Antisemitic investigations; have a look at the levels of interference by the leader's office in the investigations, inc by Seamus Milne and argghh - female senior manager whose name escapes me - all the info is out there. You're playing with words, making excuses about not investigated properly or make decisions. He will have known something so controversial would have come up in the debate, and would have been fully briefed. Corbyn lied last night.

I'm not defending Johnson - hell, I even struggle to say Boris. He's a disgrace of a PM, nor do I doubt the validity of your claims about him. But why do you continually defend Corbyn, then say "Corbyn is untrustworthy." He's either believable or he isn't. And "untrustworthy - not able to be relied on as honest or truthful."

BTW, I'm with you on Diane Abbot. She's got a first class record as a constituency MP, and the work she's done on various Select Committees, especially in the area of mental health, is fantastic. Has she been promoted to her level of incompetency? I don't know. But it is worth looking at some of the stuff she's done on the Beeb with Michael Portillo... she comes across as a racist. For me, that's her failing. Great Constituency MP but flawed in other areas.
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You know my feelings on Corbyn, I’m just putting another side to it, not everything we read in the media is fact.
The meetings with Adams and McGuinness were nearly 30-40 years ago when we didn’t know as much as we do now, I struggle to get past how he behaved in the past, just as much as I struggle with some of the things Abbott has said over the past.
I just believe it’s time to move on and judge people on recent and current events.
 
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