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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Liverpoolphil said:
Who attends or not for me is irrelevant - as long as the people are being given a platform to ensure the sacrifice that many made is never forgotten.

It shouldn’t matter who is in the crowd , all that should matter is the people in the middle - but because of the way the country is going someone ( a Tory supporter ) and a clear Tory disgusting rag paper used the even to score points - that for me is more disgraceful than Corbyn not being there - I have no doubt if he turned up someone would have found a way to point a finger. Corbyn ( and to be clear his attitude and beliefs disgust me ) was there yesterday to pay his respects and lay a wreath as a representative of his party

Just for one weekend and a pretty important weekend - politics and the current embarrassment should have been forgotten with our thoughts and prayers elsewhere.

It’s shameful that some people’s thoughts were more on a politician not in the crowd as opposed to a veteran in the middle who made a huge sacrifice.

Politics in the UK is already ripping the country apart - and it’s a shame people couldn’t just switch off for a couple of days .
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I noticed he wasn't there but didn't give it much more than a second thought. I thought it sad that a politician that represents so many people wasn't there, and that's as far as it got for me. I agree that his lack of an appearance shouldn't be weaponised for political reasons. Let each of us draw our own conclusions, based on our own beliefs.

Corbyn will drop enough clangers to be pulled up on others things and, as you rightly say, lets focus on what Sunday evening was all about, not what it wasn't.
 
I found boris laying the wreath at the Cenotaph yesterday as an insult
How on earth are we meant to believe anybody could do that.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Who attends or not for me is irrelevant - as long as the people are being given a platform to ensure the sacrifice that many made is never forgotten.

It shouldn’t matter who is in the crowd , all that should matter is the people in the middle - but because of the way the country is going someone ( a Tory supporter ) and a clear Tory disgusting rag paper used the even to score points - that for me is more disgraceful than Corbyn not being there - I have no doubt if he turned up someone would have found a way to point a finger. Corbyn ( and to be clear his attitude and beliefs disgust me ) was there yesterday to pay his respects and lay a wreath as a representative of his party

Just for one weekend and a pretty important weekend - politics and the current embarrassment should have been forgotten with our thoughts and prayers elsewhere.

It’s shameful that some people’s thoughts were more on a politician not in the crowd as opposed to a veteran in the middle who made a huge sacrifice.

Politics in the UK is already ripping the country apart - and it’s a shame people couldn’t just switch off for a couple of days .
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Please don't assume you know my politics and just because you indulge yourself in reading those "Tory disgusting rag papers" most of us don't.
 
Hobbit said:
Now who's being mischievous?
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It’s genuine Bri, I was annoyed over Corbyn on saturday night and then boris sunday.
Both showed a lack of respect, still not happy with any official “excuse” from the Labour party and both men showed a lack of decency.
I do fear for the next few years in this Country.
 
Old Skier said:
Please don't assume you know my politics and just because you indulge yourself in reading those "Tory disgusting rag papers" most of us don't.
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Don’t assume I was talking about you - you can read back and see who brought it into the thread.
 
pauldj42 said:
It’s genuine Bri, I was annoyed over Corbyn on saturday night and then boris sunday.
Both showed a lack of respect, still not happy with any official “excuse” from the Labour party and both men showed a lack of decency.
I do fear for the next few years in this Country.
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I wasn't annoyed about Corbyn, just disappointed. As for Boris; as you said about Corbyn's attendance, how about giving him the benefit of the doubt? Was he disrespectful or plain clumsy?
 
So Boris accidentily laid his wreath upside down and Corbyn didnt bow enough. Good heavens above, the disgrace of it all, what on earth will become of the country 🙄 We have become a Nation of snowflakes looking to be offended by something, thats what. Sensationalism personified, everythings catestrophic and we're devastated over every little bit of nit picking trivia.
 
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Hobbit said:
I wasn't annoyed about Corbyn, just disappointed. As for Boris; as you said about Corbyn's attendance, how about giving him the benefit of the doubt? Was he disrespectful or plain clumsy?
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Mate, come on, he had 1 job, lay a wreath, only 1 way to do it, not rushed, no panic, plenty of time to get ready and he’s done it before.
What annoyed me about Corbyn is that the aftermath of the Festival is about him and not the stories or the tribute that was so impeccably carried out.
I don’t care if any politician attends or not, but in this day of communications, him or his representative should of been there imo.
 
pauldj42 said:
Mate, come on, he had 1 job, lay a wreath, only 1 way to do it, not rushed, no panic, plenty of time to get ready and he’s done it before.
What annoyed me about Corbyn is that the aftermath of the Festival is about him and not the stories or the tribute that was so impeccably carried out.
I don’t care if any politician attends or not, but in this day of communications, him or his representative should of been there imo.
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Last year half the country wanted to focus on Corbyn's anorak. On Sunday it was Corbyn's no show. Today its Boris' upside down wreath.

120,000 premature deaths laid at the door of austerity.... and people want to focus on anoraks and wreaths. There's priorities to be looked at, and in the great scheme of things people want to focus on anoraks and wreaths.... *sighs and walks away shaking his head*
 
SocketRocket said:
So Boris accidentily laid his wreath upside down and Corbyn didnt bow enough. Good heavens above, the disgrace of it all, what on earth will become of the country 🙄 We have become a Nation of snowflakes looking to be offended by something, thats what. Sensationalism personified, everythings catestrophic and we're devastated over every little bit of nit picking trivia.
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If that of been Corbyn laying the wreath upside down the right wing press and some people on here would of gone spastic in telling us it was on purpose and another snub.
But it’s boris so we’ll call it an accident, just like the BBC “accidentally” showing footage from 2016 laying a wreath instead of yesterday’s footage.
This is also the guy who claimed £16.50 for a wreath a few years ago and when asked why said it was a mistake:unsure:
 
Hobbit said:
Last year half the country wanted to focus on Corbyn's anorak. On Sunday it was Corbyn's no show. Today its Boris' upside down wreath.

120,000 premature deaths laid at the door of austerity.... and people want to focus on anoraks and wreaths. There's priorities to be looked at, and in the great scheme of things people want to focus on anoraks and wreaths.... *sighs and walks away shaking his head*
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Last year it was the size of Corbyn’s Poppy Badge.(y)
Problem is Bri, we don’t control the media, it’s them setting the agenda.
 
pauldj42 said:
Last year it was the size of Corbyn’s Poppy Badge.(y)
Problem is Bri, we don’t control the media, it’s them setting the agenda.
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I agree we don't control the media but we do control how we react to it. Should we all rise up and throw stones like the opening scenes of Life of Brian because someone shouted Jehovah or should we show a little more intelligence and focus on what truly matters?

We have the choice of how we react. We don't have to behave as sheep being spoon-fed media rubbish.
 
Hobbit said:
I agree we don't control the media but we do control how we react to it. Should we all rise up and throw stones like the opening scenes of Life of Brian because someone shouted Jehovah or should we show a little more intelligence and focus on what truly matters?

We have the choice of how we react. We don't have to behave as sheep being spoon-fed media rubbish.
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I didn’t need the media to tell me how to react to Corbyn’s no show or boris showing a lack of care, but tonight we’re having a debate on here on the subject at hand, it doesn’t mean it’s how we live our lives.
If I came on and said my day involved there’d be no interest or no debate.
 
pauldj42 said:
I didn’t need the media to tell me how to react to Corbyn’s no show or boris showing a lack of care, but tonight we’re having a debate on here on the subject at hand, it doesn’t mean it’s how we live our lives.
If I came on and said my day involved there’d be no interest or no debate.
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Mmm, I'm kinda struggling a bit to understand where you're coming from... maybe. I'll pose a question back at you, more from a Devil's Advocate perspective. If you believe you don't need the media to form your own reactions, and I agree with you there, why confront other people's reactions? Surely its up to them how they react and how they verbalise those reactions?

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just posing the question about how you confront, or if you should, someone else's beliefs in that respect. They are both right and wrong - its about opinions.
 
SocketRocket said:
So Boris accidentily laid his wreath upside down and Corbyn didnt bow enough. Good heavens above, the disgrace of it all, what on earth will become of the country 🙄 We have become a Nation of snowflakes looking to be offended by something, thats what. Sensationalism personified, everythings catestrophic and we're devastated over every little bit of nit picking trivia.
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Bloody well said. Personally I am pig sick of all this being offended at unintended slips or attempted jokes or quick replies not coming out exactly as intended, and then, if you are politically against that person , in you lunge, kicking and clawing at them ,self righteous in the opportunity you have been given to be offended.
Tribalism at its worst.
This country used to be known for its sense of fair play etc.
That's all gone.
 
Hobbit said:
Mmm, I'm kinda struggling a bit to understand where you're coming from... maybe. I'll pose a question back at you, more from a Devil's Advocate perspective. If you believe you don't need the media to form your own reactions, and I agree with you there, why confront other people's reactions? Surely its up to them how they react and how they verbalise those reactions?

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just posing the question about how you confront, or if you should, someone else's beliefs in that respect. They are both right and wrong - its about opinions.
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If I’m correct in what you’re looking for.
I have no issue with someone else’s beliefs, what I don’t agree with is them making statements they can’t back up or not even attempting to see both sides of the debate.
None of us are perfect, but I see myself as a bit more open minded than some who post on here.
If you tune the rubbish out there are some very educational and informative posts and then there are those who will instantly dismiss said posts with a flippant remark rather than join in.

See post #757 as an example.
 
Old Skier said:
Unfortunately that's not true because the conflict in and amongst those in the former Yugoslavia did happen and thousands of people were massacred and Ukraine is as far as I'm aware still in Europe
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Ah your talking about countries that were initially in the communist block. Interesting that when that block broke up the fighting started .. does suggest that the method of holding the block together did not work as well as the EU method.
I’ll leave you to ponder that a bit longer.
 
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