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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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ColchesterFC said:
I've no idea, hence the question as to whether it was possible. But if I can swap my energy supplier whenever I want then I assumed that a government backed energy supplier could use existing infrastructure. I appreciate it might be more difficult with water/sewage as I can't switch those.
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You can switch your water supplier, they just don't advertise the fact very loudly.
 
IanM said:
I don't think any of the Party Leaders are appropriate PM material for a who raft of reasons. Can the country issue an instruction for all of them to go back and try a bit harder?
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Absolutely farcical 'leaders' debate.
Should be called an England only issue to avoid all the UK misinformation that the pair will spout.
Sky apologies to the SNP saying they did not mean to upset them, aye not much [or more likely pig ignorant arrogant]
 
Grant85 said:
Seems like this is already happening with 2 big 'bad news' stories dominating coverage yesterday in terms of Alun Cairns being found out to lie about his former aide's involvement in the collapse in a rape trial, as well as Jacob Reese Mogg stating the Grenfell residents lacked common sense in abiding by fire service advice to 'stay put' in the tower. Not to mention Andrew Bridgen then effectively backing up Mogg!

And Boris comparing Corbyn to Stalin... a dictator, mass murderer and ethnic cleanser!?!? Completely ridiculous.

Ultimately I believe most Tories (at MP / Cabinet level) are pretty much in it for themselves and while they may be able to operate effectively in the bubble of parliament, with a civil service / staff at their disposal... but put them into a radio or TV studio and their true colours show. Ultimately they don't really care about people or even what policies they can put in place - they simply care about being in power, more so than anything else.

Can they really keep this going for another 5 weeks without further stories like this breaking!?!?
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well this did not age well.

Yesterday evening Tom Watson standing down - you have to imagine because he simply doesn't align with the leadership and much of the membership and didn't have the stomach for another 5 years of trying to keep his shoulder to the fire door to prevent the moderates being completely sidelined.

And this morning former Labour minister Ian Austin absolutely savaging Corbyn and encouraging people on Live tele to actually vote Conservative to put Johnson in rather than Corbyn.

Certainly de-rails Labour completely in terms of the coverage and keeps the Tories off the back-foot.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Absolutely farcical 'leaders' debate.
Should be called an England only issue to avoid all the UK misinformation that the pair will spout.
Sky apologies to the SNP saying they did not mean to upset them, aye not much [or more likely pig ignorant arrogant]
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Ultimately Sky know that almost certainly Boris would not show up if the debate was opened up to other parties. Head to Head with Corbyn, they can cope with as it's one against the other. I saw Gove being very evasive on whether the Tories would turn up to the Sky debate, which would include Jo Swinson. They certainly aren't as keen as they were for the ITV debate.

With these events, as soon as your introduce another 1 or 2 debaters, the governing party run the risk of getting savaged for 3/4 of the time and will always be on the backfoot. I guess that is part of being the government and we see it in Scotland with the SNP tending to bear the brunt from 3 out of 5 debaters spending most of their time criticising them.

Personally feel parties should be mandated to take part in these with a clear qualification criteria for participation whether it is a certain %age of the vote or a certain no. of seats at the last election (in reality it should be a fairly low bar - like 5% of the vote or 10 seats).

This would also mean it wasn't completely pointless for the smaller parties to field candidates and spend a huge amount of time and money to gain a few million votes and zero seats. People would genuinely have a reason to stand and people would genuinely have a reason to vote for them in order to try and give them a platform at the next election.
 
robinthehood said:
Making light of mental health.
Disgusting.
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A bit like our splendid Chancellor of the Exchequer apparently going to refer to Corbyn and McDonnell as 'anti-vaxxers'.

However now that the Tory Spin-masters have got that message out there, Javid will no doubt deny he was ever going to make such a comparison - but the message is out there...

And there was me thinking that the political parties were being exhorted to refrain from using inflammatory language in personal attacks on their opponents. Ah well.
 
Old Skier said:
Or he was having a laugh, the way most people would have seen it.
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In the way that Cleverly was yesterday insisting that the doctored Keir Starmer video was a) cut short for posting purposes - then b) obviously satirical given the jolly plinky-plonky music.

Yup - the Tories are such a bunch of jolly-japers...:(
 
Beezerk said:
So Labour swing even further left, great.
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Quite - not great for me. I look at the sort of voice that Labour is losing and it's not good. Makes it harder for me to go there any time soon.

Anyway - I see that the Remain Alliance have agreed that the Greens will not stand in my constituency. Wondering if the National Health Action Party will now stand aside. It's a pity that the NHA Party candidate at the last election was excellent - whereas the LibDem candidate was less so - he was OK - but not up to Dr Louise Irvine standard - and as a result she got 20% of the vote in 2017.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
A bit like our splendid Chancellor of the Exchequer apparently going to refer to Corbyn and McDonnell as 'anti-vaxxers'.

However now that the Tory Spin-masters have got that message out there, Javid will no doubt deny he was ever going to make such a comparison - but the message is out there...

And there was me thinking that the political parties were being exhorted to refrain from using inflammatory language in personal attacks on their opponents. Ah well.
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Be interested to know which party you have found that isn't involved in these idiotic statements. Or do I presume you won't support any of them.
 
Old Skier said:
Be interested to know which party you have found that isn't involved in these idiotic statements. Or do I presume you won't support any of them.
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I'm really not interested in 'whatabootery'. It's either acceptable or it's not. For me it's not - from anyone about anyone. Politics somehow has to be de-toxified because it just fuels the anger in society that has split us. Criticise as much as they might - but keep the vile comparisons and epithets out of it.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I'm really not interested in 'whatabootery'. It's either acceptable or it's not. For me it's not - from anyone about anyone. Politics somehow has to be de-toxified because it just fuels the anger in society that has split us. Criticise as much as they might - but keep the vile comparisons and epithets out of it.
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Whatabootery, the get out clause for all those that refuse to answer. It's about time you had the courage of your convictions.
 
Listened to a podcast today talking about the Boris launch speech he did somewhere in the West Mids yesterday. And they said they were there through all the preparations and it was like a military operation and completely staged. Specific people in the crowd got given banners and told where to stand and when to shout etc etc. It was then filmed to look like the place was rammed when it was actually like TOTP where clever camera angles make it look like there are lot more people there than actually are. Have no doubt for a second this goes on across the board, but another example of just how poorly we are being served by our politicians with most of these type of things being heavily controlled and attended by hard core party acolytes, and how much these things are mostly about image and spin with very little substance.
 
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