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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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SocketRocket said:
Better than being on the EU. You know 'things can only get better' Worked before 😉
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Worked for D:Ream, and then allowed Brian Cox to chase his TV dream I suppose..

Still, if you have to explain the message then it's probably not quite catchy enough for Boris and Farage's target audience eh?
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Sometimes it doesn't have to be right, I come back to the bus, it just has to stick. Tory HQ will be going all out these next few days to crush the idea as they know it would do damage.

I find the strategy side quite interesting. All of the sides are trying to get phrases out that stick in the mind. Trump, for all his downsides, worked a dream, or his team did, in his election. Make America Great, Lock Her Up, snappy lines that stuck and people bought into. Not everyone but enough. You don't have to convince everyone, just a few extra. All sides will be doing it, Labour just got their first effective one in before the others.
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Kind of a bit depressing though as it is essentially an election around who can get the most traction out of a catchphrase or meme. Treat the public as stupid and not able to cope with anything more and we kind of end up with the parliament we deserve if we don't desire more.
 
bluewolf said:
Looks like the new Conservative election slogan might be a bit of an own goal!! Who on earth came up with..

"Britain deserves better"

Better than what exactly? The party that has been in power for the last god knows how many years!!! really?
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I saw that and my immediate response was 'massive own goal'
Hope they do Poster and Bus advertising.
After his covert visit to Addenbrookes yesterday [did the have to smuggle him in with a blanket over his head]has Johnson announced what Perthshire village hut he is visiting in Scotland.
 
Hacker Khan said:
Kind of a bit depressing though as it is essentially an election around who can get the most traction out of a catchphrase or meme. Treat the public as stupid and not able to cope with anything more and we kind of end up with the parliament we deserve if we don't desire more.
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But in all fairness, that has been the way for years now. The most memorable for me (even as a left leaning voter) as Maggies posters of a long snaking line of people standing with the strap line “labour isn’t working”
It worked for Maggie unfortunately.

TBH I think the verbal intervention of Trump might actually backfire for Joris Bohnson.
 
Bunkermagnet said:
But in all fairness, that has been the way for years now. The most memorable for me (even as a left leaning voter) as Maggies posters of a long snaking line of people standing with the strap line “labour isn’t working”
It worked for Maggie unfortunately.

TBH I think the verbal intervention of Trump might actually backfire for Joris Bohnson.
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You are kidding, all the Labour activists sprayed out the n't in isn't on the posters in my area, it was a right old laugh.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Sometimes it doesn't have to be right, I come back to the bus, it just has to stick. Tory HQ will be going all out these next few days to crush the idea as they know it would do damage.

I find the strategy side quite interesting. All of the sides are trying to get phrases out that stick in the mind. Trump, for all his downsides, worked a dream, or his team did, in his election. Make America Great, Lock Her Up, snappy lines that stuck and people bought into. Not everyone but enough. You don't have to convince everyone, just a few extra. All sides will be doing it, Labour just got their first effective one in before the others.
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If memory serves me right, I think when Blair got in he hired American strategists to help and advise on the Labour campaign
 
Hacker Khan said:
Kind of a bit depressing though as it is essentially an election around who can get the most traction out of a catchphrase or meme. Treat the public as stupid and not able to cope with anything more and we kind of end up with the parliament we deserve if we don't desire more.
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The old Greek philosophers had some sense. Aristotle said (paraphrased a bit)"... you can't give power to the soldiers, they won't know what to do with it...!"

Not wishing to be impolite to our fellow UK citizens but 'intelligence/common sense' isn't spread evenly; it is quite skewed as there's more at the bottom; luckily a high proportion can't be bothered to vote. I'm afraid it means the slogans etc are targeted at the lowest common denominator.
 
Tashyboy said:
If memory serves me right, I think when Blair got in he hired American strategists to help and advise on the Labour campaign
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They all do it nowadays and there is a lot of crossover. Watch 'The Great Hack' on Netflix and you'll see the crossover between Brexit campaign and Trump campaign. No doubt all parties are now looking at the most effective way to get the votes they need, which increasingly involves harvesting individuals data and then targeting those people/demographics with specific messages.
 
Hacker Khan said:
They all do it nowadays and there is a lot of crossover. Watch 'The Great Hack' on Netflix and you'll see the crossover between Brexit campaign and Trump campaign. No doubt all parties are now looking at the most effective way to get the votes they need, which increasingly involves harvesting individuals data and then targeting those people/demographics with specific messages.
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Very much this. Emphasising the 'echo chamber'. All quite disturbing and sinister. Sadly effective for a lot of people as well.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Very much this. Emphasising the 'echo chamber'. All quite disturbing and sinister. Sadly effective for a lot of people as well.
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Yup, said it before and I'll say it again (which is the official motto of this forum) but this is the biggest threat to our democracy in ages and it's happening before our very eyes.
 
Hacker Khan said:
They all do it nowadays and there is a lot of crossover. Watch 'The Great Hack' on Netflix and you'll see the crossover between Brexit campaign and Trump campaign. No doubt all parties are now looking at the most effective way to get the votes they need, which increasingly involves harvesting individuals data and then targeting those people/demographics with specific messages.
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Jehovah Witnesses been at it for years. I just tell them I never saw the accident.
 
drdel said:
The old Greek philosophers had some sense. Aristotle said (paraphrased a bit)"... you can't give power to the soldiers, they won't know what to do with it...!"

Not wishing to be impolite to our fellow UK citizens but 'intelligence/common sense' isn't spread evenly; it is quite skewed as there's more at the bottom; luckily a high proportion can't be bothered to vote. I'm afraid it means the slogans etc are targeted at the lowest common denominator.
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But, always followed by what your really think, but pretend not to...

Although I thought our bright youngsters were the ones that couldnt be bothered....
 
Brilliant news Farage saying the Brexit party will contest every seat in Scotland.
Nicola could not write a better script. Can we please get Nigel to do a public tour of the Scots regions.

Mind you I have been told that the Brexit party only have enough money and candidates to contest 40-60 seats in the UK.
Someone must be telling porkies. [Again]
 
So we have the choice of 2 liars , on the right wing side.
An unknown liability on the left wing. And jokers in the middle, according to the right wingers..
 
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