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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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robinthehood said:
Yeah I saw that bit last night, me thinks he was a little confused and very wrong.
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O'Brien talking about this at the moment. As he has said - he suspects that the bloke doesn't and can't actually believe that by earning over £80k he would be in the top 5%. Because for him it's a good income - but not a top 5% income. Unfortunately it is.

BTW - O'Brien is discussing why the guy thought what he did - and the way the audience reacted...some at first applauding him - on calling Labour Liars - then the penny dropped when they twigged why he was calling Labour that.
 
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spongebob59 said:
Sadly I think Labour will, it's the Marxists last chance saloon.
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Speaking with Mrs Hogan earlier - she is liking what Corbyn is saying - and she is actually quite liking Corbyn - even though she says he looks a mess :)

And we were thinking that the clear rationale for what Corbyn is setting out is that the policies directly address almost ALL of the key issues that impact the lower paid and unemployed.

Corbyn knows that many of these voters up North voted to leave for lack of provision in the areas Labour area targetting - and he is gambling that some Labour Leave voters who are saying they are going to vote Try/TBP will look at what Labour is offering - compare with what they believe Brexit will deliver - and they'll just go for Labour as Labour policies will address their problems.
 
SocketRocket said:
I think you will find that no Country runs railways at a profit, the choice is how bad you want it to be. Nationalisation is no answer to improving railways unless you hand over a blank cheque.
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TfL is nationalised and receives not a penny from central government... It's not perfect but efficient enough that the majority of commuters, in the home counties, would like to see their Overground services brought under the wing of TfL...

Compare that to Branson who has trousered millions of taxpayers money and still provides an underperforming service... And, worse still, supports remain...
 
chrisd said:
The rich always get richer but they do pay more tax by % than anyone else
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Rightly so, even the idiot on QT last night failed to realise that those earning 80K pa on Labour’s plans would only amount to £4.81 per week, a sum most of us regardless of wage would happily pay if it meant a better NHS etc.
 
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We spotted this morning that the National Health Action Party are not putting up a candidate in our constituency this time (Jeremy Hunt no longer Health and Social Care Secretary - no point) but also it looks like they don't have any candidates anywhere - so keeping out of the way of the LibDems?.

I am thinking that, in our constituency, most of the NHA Parties 12,093 votes from 2017 will go to the LibDems. So we have 3 candidates - Labour, LibDems and Tories.
 
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pauldj42 said:
Rightly so, even the idiot on QT last night failed to realise that those earning 80K pa on Labour’s plans would only amount to £4.81 per week, a sum most of us regardless of wage would happily pay if it meant a better NHS etc.
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Got the calculations for that ? and the basis of it ? (ie is it for an straight employee earning £x ?) I suspect it has been based on a lower paid employee only basis?

Once you go above the £80k, you will be paying ALOT more and some of the marginal rates of taxes are a bit scary(like old labour days), especially if the personal allowances are taken away still at 100k.

Limited company owners, are going to be paying loads loads more than that, so your Peter Plumbers Ltd earning say £30k before personal allowances is going to be pay way more than £250 a year. A quick calculation shows that they will pay about £2,200 more in tax:eek:. If they earn 40k, then this increases to about £3,300 more in tax :eek: These are not people I would class as earnings loads of money, just earning a living, working 5-7 days a week/evenings and so on but sorry sir, open your pockets and empty them to me.

A quick question, how much more would you be willing to pay per year, for everything you wish for ? Are you thinking £200 per year or £500 or £1000 or a more realistic figure of say £2500-5000 ? Be interested to hear?
 
DRW said:
Got the calculations for that ? and the basis of it ? (ie is it for an straight employee earning £x ?) I suspect it has been based on a lower paid employee only basis?

Once you go above the £80k, you will be paying ALOT more and some of the marginal rates of taxes are a bit scary(like old labour days), especially if the personal allowances are taken away still at 100k.

Limited company owners, are going to be paying loads loads more than that, so your Peter Plumbers Ltd earning say £30k before personal allowances is going to be pay way more than £250 a year. A quick calculation shows that they will pay about £2,200 more in tax:eek:. If they earn 40k, then this increases to about £3,300 more in tax :eek: These are not people I would class as earnings loads of money, just earning a living, working 5-7 days a week/evenings and so on but sorry sir, open your pockets and empty them to me.

A quick question, how much more would you be willing to pay per year, for everything you wish for ? Are you thinking £200 per year or £500 or £1000 or a more realistic figure of say £2500-5000 ? Be interested to hear?
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I might be missing something but sums are quite easy. If I earn £85k then I would pay an additional 5% income tax on £5k. And that's £4.80 / week - the cost of a pint and a packet of crisps in my cheapest local.
 
DRW said:
Got the calculations for that ? and the basis of it ? (ie is it for an straight employee earning £x ?) I suspect it has been based on a lower paid employee only basis?

Once you go above the £80k, you will be paying ALOT more and some of the marginal rates of taxes are a bit scary(like old labour days), especially if the personal allowances are taken away still at 100k.

Limited company owners, are going to be paying loads loads more than that, so your Peter Plumbers Ltd earning say £30k before personal allowances is going to be pay way more than £250 a year. A quick calculation shows that they will pay about £2,200 more in tax:eek:. If they earn 40k, then this increases to about £3,300 more in tax :eek: These are not people I would class as earnings loads of money, just earning a living, working 5-7 days a week/evenings and so on but sorry sir, open your pockets and empty them to me.

A quick question, how much more would you be willing to pay per year, for everything you wish for ? Are you thinking £200 per year or £500 or £1000 or a more realistic figure of say £2500-5000 ? Be interested to hear?
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There is a online tax calculator, I put in the figure of £85000 as we have no idea of his actual wage.

As for what I’d be happy to pay, I’m not sure anyone could answer, it’s relative to my personal situation isn’t it, a £1000 pa or 5% etc to me maybe peanuts and a fortune to you.
Would certainly be happy paying more if it guaranteed a better society, would be disappointed if it meant bigger profits for the rich.

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bobmac said:
So when Labour lose the election, will they accept the decision of the people or push for a second election?
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Depends if the tories fail to sort anything out after 3 years like they have with brexit.
 
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