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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Hobbit said:
I wouldn't count on that. I wonder how many big businesses would consider moving the HQ to the Cayman Islands? The business stays, and continues to generate a profit, and the employees continue to pay income tax but all that juicy Corporation Tax goes where - think Amazon/Google...
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You only have to look at how businesses moved into Ireland when they cut corporation tax. Modern businesses are agile not loyal.
 
SocketRocket said:
The answer is that the railways were losing massive amounts of money, were over staffed and inefficient. Typical of nationalised industry. Hope that helps
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what are they now?? aprt from the over staffing bit

run for profit, poor service, poor investment, rinsing ticketprices for the GP and still costs the tax payer.
 
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chrisd said:
I realise that, but just pointing out that apparently most of the manifesto is NOT costed at all, despite promises that it would be
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Therein lays my issue with the labour Manifesto, JC promised live on air in the debate it will be 100% fully costed but it s not at all. There are some costs in there and they're quite eye watering and I can't see how they think only the top 5% and businesses will be covering that amount let alone the costs involved that haven't been published despite being told they would be.

Thee are some nice ideas in there if truth be told but I can't see how they're affordable without hitting the everyday man with more taxes and without impacting small businesses in negative way.

Guess I'll have to look at the other parties ones and see which is the least fairytale in its approach
 
So who do you vote for.


Tories and the Buffon that is Boris.
Labour and the Clown that is Jezza.
lib dems and the party that ignores democracy.
Brexit and the Clown that is Farage.
SNP and Mr Salmond

Spoilt for choice don't spring to mind.
 
The Labour clown on the same show who thinks there are thousands upon thousands of billionaires all here in the UK ready to pay a ton more tax to fund all their ideas.
 
Wolf said:
Therein lays my issue with the labour Manifesto, JC promised live on air in the debate it will be 100% fully costed but it s not at all. There are some costs in there and they're quite eye watering and I can't see how they think only the top 5% and businesses will be covering that amount let alone the costs involved that haven't been published despite being told they would be.

Thee are some nice ideas in there if truth be told but I can't see how they're affordable without hitting the everyday man with more taxes and without impacting small businesses in negative way.

Guess I'll have to look at the other parties ones and see which is the least fairytale in its approach
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A sound idea !

The extra costs to business etc will all filter down and affect jobs and wages. The plans as a whole will put us back to where we were in 2010 "there's no money left"
 
chrisd said:
A sound idea !

The extra costs to business etc will all filter down and affect jobs and wages. The plans as a whole will put us back to where we were in 2010 "there's no money left"
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100% in agreement with you on this Chris. Costs have to filter down especially amongst SME's. That will ultimately affect the ability they have to pay staff, which could result in cut backs and loss of jobs. So instead of earning the minimum proposed £10p/h that person goes on instead to become another stag in the benefit system and the merry go round continues.

Then there's the point of creating another national Bank to allow for an additional £250billion of borrowing, that borrowing has to be paid back by someone and that has to be tax payers unless they think always these top 5% plus business can fund every single part of there partially costed manifesto. If they do think that then someone has been on the crack pipe.

I like some of the ideas but the numbers don't add up and that's just the numbers they have actually published.
 
An OECD report just out predicts growth in the UK will drop to 1% from about 1.5%. Eurozone will see a similar drop. Japan's down to 0.6%, China and USA also slowing down.

Against this the UK is still looking 'inside' and with the main parties going on a spending spree. Labour's manifesto has been declared un-affordable by the IMF.

IMO this election choice is about the least damaging policies; Liberals have no 'real' economic/international plans other than cancel Brexit; Labour no international looking policies (except make the UK the last place to invest) seem entirely bent on 'cuckoo land' spending promises that just create an anti-Tory sentiment; Tories are attempting to deflect Labour's policies and get Brexit finished.

At least there's only 3 weeks of fairy tales to go.
 
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The note left by Labour saying 'there's no money left' was not in fact a bit of dark humour in the wake of the global financial crash with the expectation that it would be kept confidential as just about every other note has between treasury secretaries has, but was in fact a blatant admission that Labour can not be trusted to run the economy as they caused the global financial crash. And when a Tory chancellor did a very similar thing previously it was a bit of dark humour and clearly not to be taken seriously. #factcheck
 
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