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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Pro Zach said:
No, the fact that they choose not stand candidates outside Scotland means she is certainly not the leader of UK national party. Being called the Scottish National Party is a big clue that they represent the nation of Scotland not the UK. Not fielding candidates anywhere other than Scotland proves that they are only representing the Nation of Scotland and are therefore not a UK national party.

Why are you suggesting they are a UK national party when their whole ideology and purpose of existing is not to be.
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How about because at the moment they are a political party within the UK.
Or is that too simple for you.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
How about because at the moment they are a political party within the UK.
Or is that too simple for you.
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There are loads of parties within the UK that are not being represented tonight. You are of course free to think it's not fair but only the 2 people in the race to the be the next PM have been invited and according to the courts there is nothing stopping ITV staging such a debate.

So suck it up and get over it...
 
drdel said:
Well the Momentum crowd have decide to mobilise their supporters to target specific Tory seats.

Since the creators, (Jon Lansman,, Adam Klug, Emma Rees and James Schneider; none of which are MPs), are deciding the Labour Party approach; Labour should re-brand to the "Momentum Party"
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Just been sent this link which isn't likely to endear Labour to anyone with any links to the military. It's been claimed it's satire but I'm not sure offering "free prosthetic limbs" for soldiers and calling them "professional murderers" is something that they should be doing.

https://metro.co.uk/2017/05/03/free...idHJleWFebbwG75iNtMy5bbWKmm453JQZlt5e2Az4XY7A

NB - it is a bit sweary so anyone easily offended probably should avoid it.
 
ger147 said:
There are loads of parties within the UK that are not being represented tonight. You are of course free to think it's not fair but only the 2 people in the race to the be the next PM have been invited and according to the courts there is nothing stopping ITV staging such a debate.

So suck it up and get over it...
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No there is not
SNP are the third largest party at Westminster and may hold the balance of a hung parliament. but they are being denied a voice.
Not exactly what you would expect from a so called civilised country.

He ho England only leaders debate about to start now If they both start slagging off the Lib Dems and the SNP because of the Brexit situation that is totally wrong..
 
Why do the SNP want to speak to the rest of the UK?
They're not putting up candidates outside Scotland so why do we need to listen to their views on the GE?
It's the same with Plaid Cyndi...nobody outside Wales needs to know
Campaign on your own turf and if that turf is only Scotland or Wales then you don't get a look-in at a National debate
If your turf is the whole of the UK then you should get a seat at the table when it comes to national debates.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
No there is not..
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Yes there is!!

For example, the Lib Dems, the Green Party, the DUP, all of whom had MP's in the last parliament in Westminster. None of those parties are represented in tonight's debate, only the 2 prospective PM's.

As I said earlier, you are free to be unhappy about it but please refrain from lying...
 
Imurg said:
Why do the SNP want to speak to the rest of the UK?
They're not putting up candidates outside Scotland so why do we need to listen to their views on the GE?
It's the same with Plaid Cyndi...nobody outside Wales needs to know
Campaign on your own turf and if that turf is only Scotland or Wales then you don't get a look-in at a National debate
If your turf is the whole of the UK then you should get a seat at the table when it comes to national debates.
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Whats to stop Corbyn or Johnson proposing a coalition if neither gets enough votes to form a majority govt? Personally, I think any party that might be large enough to form part of any govt, coalition or otherwise, should be included.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
SNP are the third largest party at Westminster and may hold the balance of a hung parliament. but they are being denied a voice.
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Corbyn has just stated that there won't be a coalition with the SNP and has called the idea "nonsense". Doesn't look very much like the SNP will be holding the balance of a hung parliament after all.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Corbyn has just stated that there won't be a coalition with the SNP and has called the idea "nonsense". Doesn't look very much like the SNP will be holding the balance of a hung parliament after all.
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Are you aware that today the Tory Scottish Secretary has offered Scotland the same deal as Labour.
They will all change their tune once the results are in.
 
Cringing here at the host. Just awful and totally out of her depth. Genuine and valid answers are being talked over due to her trying to allow them a set time to answer :ROFLMAO:

Just give Sky these debates.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Are you aware that today the Tory Scottish Secretary has offered Scotland the same deal as Labour.
They will all change their tune once the results are in.
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I've no idea what the Tory Scottish Secretary has offered or even if it's within his/her power to offer such a thing. Are you suggesting that Mr Corbyn might not be telling the truth when he says there will be no coalition?
 
The debate is lame... the host is not doing a good job.. get someone like Marr to roast these liars.

BTW.. food unwrapped on C4 is more engaging
 
MetalMickie said:
Good question that has arisen as a result of the prolonging of the exit process.

Back in 2016 there was no discussion of any deal and my understanding, as a Remainer, was that we would leave asap and negotiate an ongoing relationship having left.

Obviously there would have to have been a short term interim arrangement but sadly none of those involved appeared either willing or able to deliver this outcome.

Therefore, in answer to your question I would say that No Deal is the nearest to fulfilling the desired outcome.

Certainly do not think that any further delay would be a good idea since the country has stood still (at best) for three years now and many other issues gone unaddressed.
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Crystal ball for sale.... needs some attention.... haha
 
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