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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Hacker Khan said:
Farage rowing back on his original bluff and bluster about fielding candidates everywhere if Boris did not drop his plan is hardly surprising as that's what types like him do, spout all sorts of stuff they either have no intention or no ability to carry through. And it makes sense for The Brexit party and Tories to merge at the polls as it is increasingly difficult to tell them apart.
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Not in the slightest, but it was necessary to get to this point. I was told by a former colleague several weeks ago that this was in the offing and kept back for a number of reasons. Nothing to do with the Kremlin! It is a simple don't split the Leave vote! The Remain lobby have been saying for weeks that Giles won't stand against Miranda in Brighton West and this was no different!

Brexit Party says that Boris' Deal isn't the full Monty, so, in the unlikely event of them getting an MP (or two) they would have no cause to stand down as they would say they had a mandate to campaign against remaining EU Influence/Controls...... that's logical in my view, even if you disagree with their policy. It is not as if they are in the House having stood under another banner in the election.

Meanwhile Labour Candidate "Mhairi Threlfall" also seems to be helping Boris......

If it keeps Corbyn and Abbott out of Government, I think Farage should get a Peerage! (as he's got no hope of a seat next door!) :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Hacker Khan said:
There's no question this has handed Boris a massive advantage. No idea why Farage did it, conspiracy theories range from he is doing this under instructions from the Kremlin, he is doing this to get an honour to the more mundane that he just realised that if the Brexit Party took votes from the Tories then Brexit may not happen. I suppose the remain parties could get their act together and start not fielding candidates in a serious way to counter this, but by that stage you kind of think they may as well just have another Brexit referendum instead of one by proxy. Onwards and upwards.....
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I am not quite so sure it's an advantage, hence my post about the 2nd and 3rd place runners .. If for example you have labour and liberal neck and neck, the leavers will possibly migrate to the TBP, but you would see the die hards staying ... leading to the possibility that the Liberals win as they could pick up the centrist tory remain voters (who do exist, I am sure - well I haven't spoken to my mum today)

With respect to the constituencies that were Labour or Liberal with a close Tory 2nd, well he could effectively make them less marginal ..

I don't know about you, but Farage is to me, more right wing and I think he will struggle to attract the left wing voters.
Whats the worst thing, voting Tory or voting TBP, for a normal labour voter ?
I think they would vote Tory and if it goes all wrong they can keep saying what a calamity the Tories have caused, as TBP could disappear into the history books .. pure speculation of cause !
 
Hacker Khan said:
Farage rowing back on his original bluff and bluster about fielding candidates everywhere if Boris did not drop his plan is hardly surprising as that's what types like him do, spout all sorts of stuff they either have no intention or no ability to carry through. And it makes sense for The Brexit party and Tories to merge at the polls as it is increasingly difficult to tell them apart.
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Its a policy known as 'negotiating' something alas many remain types fail to understand.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Because they can't afford to field candidates in the 600 seats Farage bragged about.
I also doubt if they could find 600 dafties to stand, they seem to have thrown out quite a few 'candidates'.
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You could have tried they they are bereft of ideas and had to copy Lib Dims/Green Pact? Come on, I expect better trolling from you that that :ROFLMAO:
 
IanM said:
You could have tried they they are bereft of ideas and had to copy Lib Dims/Green Pact? Come on, I expect better trolling from you that that :ROFLMAO:
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To be fair Ian, as far as trolling is concerned he is about as good at it as his national football and rugby teams are in world sport. the
 
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Hobbit said:
I think the Brexit Party will dilute the Tory vote quite a bit, assuming there's still the feelings there was around the time of the Euro elections. If there are still similar feelings around, I wonder how Labour will get on.

As for your comment on the Brexit Party in Westminster with a Westminster leader not being Farage. I feel exactly the same way about the SNP. I find it a little odd when Sturgeon mouths off about Westminster when her remit is MSP/First Minister in Scotland.
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Of course you know that the massive difference between Sturgeon and Farage in that respect, is that Sturgeon has her elected platform in the parliament of own country - the parliament in which many of the most important decisions for the people of Scotland are made. She mouths off about Westminster in the context of the limitations, constraints and impositions of Westminster on the Scottish Parliament and hence on herself as Scottish First Minster.
 
I’ve not read a single post on here, but I can’t help saying, that, what a piece of work that Emily Thornberry is, a really horrible excuse for a human being if ever there was one.

Her whole persona is disgusting, the constant looking away and rolling of the eyes when anyone is speaking g to her is disgraceful.

I can’t wait for the condescending cow to fall from grace, and the higher the better imo.
 
SocketRocket said:
Its a policy known as 'negotiating' something alas many remain types fail to understand.
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What negotiating, both have denied talking to each other over the weekend, boris said No to a deal last week.
Is one or both of them lying then if you reckon this deal has been negotiated?
 
Listening to the Farrago-excusistas calling in to LBC is - erm - yes it is rather funny, but it is also depressing as intelligent people try and tell us that this does not reflect negatively in any way whatsoever on the 'great' man. Richard not so en-Tice-ing was less than his usual bombastic positive self in an interview I heard earlier. Even Farrago sounded a little apologetic in his statement.

farrago (def. A confused mixture :) )

And I'll leave Farrago just there, because on here we don't do name-calling of politicians.

One thing that this almost certainly does is return Jeremy Hunt as the MP for South-West Surrey as most hopes of a change depended upon TBP taking a bundle of Tory votes.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Of course you know that the massive difference between Sturgeon and Farage in that respect, is that Sturgeon has her elected platform in the parliament of own country - the parliament in which many of the most important decisions for the people of Scotland are made. She mouths off about Westminster in the context of the limitations, constraints and impositions of Westminster on the Scottish Parliament and hence on herself as Scottish First Minster.
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That is what I expected you to come back with. Didn't think you'd see the irony in it.
 
IanM said:
Well, if you see a Brexit candidate standing in a constituency with a sitting Tory MP, you'll know! :)

Corbyn of course says this is an outrage and makes trade deals with the USA more likely! (yes, trading with our biggest ally...outrage!)
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Not 100% sure with the current commander in chief they are our biggest ally and putting a lot of faith in us getting a favourable trade deal may be a little misplaced. As who knows what his thinking is from day to day. He was building a wall in Colorado the other day.
 
drdel said:
^^^^ Emily Thornberry stated she would vote to LEAVE today while being interviewed. However once she was challenged she quickly corrected herself. Its amusing to see that not only have they confused the electorate they're beginning to confuse each other :D
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but boy, she is a looker!!
 
I have just listened to a Eddie Mair interview Farage on LBC - with Farage slurping his tea/coffee all through the interview; saying he's not going to refund any money in respect of Brexit Party candidates now not contesting a seat; and when asked when we'll be seeing TBP manifesto as he previously promised - well Farage tells that that was just a joke, and that TBP won't be providing us with a manifesto - because manifestos are just lies. Brilliant. What an interview. Man of the People.

And just wondering what Johnson has 'given' Farage - with or without the knowledge of his cabinet. Farage thinks a 'lot'. According to Farage the concessions to Farage turns Johnson BRINO into something closer to 'what the people voted for'. So he knows...
 
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Hobbit said:
That is what I expected you to come back with. Didn't think you'd see the irony in it.
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Where's the irony? At least at the moment Farage has a platform in his elected position in the EU Parliament - when we leave he won't. And he won't have any elected platform - unless that is he decides to have a Brexit Party leadership election.
 
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