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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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harpo_72 said:
He’s not as bad as Patrick Reed .. that’s very harsh.
I would happily pee on them all even without fire being involved. Especially after I have enjoyed some asparagus.
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Except that Patrick Reed once called me Sir, something that Red Jezza hasn't ever done, oh go on yes I'll pee on Jezza if necessary, given at my age I do have regular pee stops so I wouldn't be wasting any
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Surely you aren’t getting petty and posting sniping remarks , especially after your little lecture ?
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Liverpoolphil said:
Your Tory leader would be very proud of you , you are everything he dreamed off
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Liverpoolphil said:
Making it a bit personal there aren’t you - well that is the Tory way
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Liverpoolphil said:
that would be very hypocritical
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Has anyone got a spare irony meter? Mine just exploded.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Laura Pidcock, Durham MP, has just been truly awful and out of her depth on ITV this morning. Do HQ not do test interviews with MPs before setting them loose? I'm not sure how many votes she has just cost but it is many ?
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I suspect at this stage after weeks of orchestrated fake news, promises that have been exposed as at best fanciful and at worst utterly unachievable, claims of antisemitism, Islamophobia, etc etc not many are going change their minds now. Didn't see the interview but both sides have very poor members of the cabinets/shadow cabinets who frankly, if it was based on competency, should not be there. It's just that their ideologies match those of the dear leader and they can be relied on to toe the party line like a programmed robot . Indeed both sides have very prominent members of the party who have been hidden away from the public as they are deemed to be so toxic. Which kind of says it all really. But I'll go back to an old sore and say at least she fronted up and was prepared to answer which I assume were tricky questions.
 
chrisd said:
Quite difficult to limit immigration as part of the EU given that anyone and everyone can just walk into the country
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the conservatives had has as election pledges in their last 3 Gov, to reduce imigration and have set targets, in that time they have not met those targets in fact its gone up and the rise has been those from outside the EU that they do have control over and what did they do to inforce that??? cut Border force staff

its a great hook for the Tory's keep on about Imigration all the while doing nothing about it, and why? they can keep rolling out they are ani imigaration and people like you will lap it up and keep voting for them
 
Hacker Khan said:
I suspect at this stage after weeks of orchestrated fake news, promises that have been exposed as at best fanciful and at worst utterly unachievable, claims of antisemitism, Islamophobia, etc etc not many are going change their minds now. Didn't see the interview but both sides have very poor members of the cabinets/shadow cabinets who frankly, if it was based on competency, should not be there. It's just that their ideologies match those of the dear leader and they can be relied on to toe the party line like a programmed robot . Indeed both sides have very prominent members of the party who have been hidden away from the public as they are deemed to be so toxic. Which kind of says it all really. But I'll go back to an old sore and say at least she fronted up and was prepared to answer which I assume were tricky questions.
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Yes brave ... or was it the naivety of youth?
I really struggle with career politicians, for me irrespective which side of the house you stand I would prefer you to have a life experience which means I expect you to be 40 ish or more. I know it's ageist but let me put it like this would you like a young doctor fresh out of med school to diagnose you or a mechanic fresh out of college fixing your car .. they may well find the answer and resolve,but some stuff is not about training it's about experience.
 
Beezerk said:
Lifelong Labour voter however I also voted Leave so unfortunately the Tories will be getting my vote this time around. Get Brexit sorted, then move on and see what happens.
Saying that, even if Labour had promised to get Brexit sorted I wouldn't have voted for them, their leadership is far too toxic for me and quite obviously throwing about crazy promises they could never seriously achieve.
Imo all this NHS horse poo is just a sideshow created by Labour to try and get away from discussing Brexit in the lead up to the election.
Should I feel ashamed for voting Tory bearing in mind where I grew up? Maybe, but this stalemate in the HoC needs sorting out so we can get on with our lives.
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i'm always staggered when i read that a lifelong labour voter would ever, ever consider voting Conservative, esp this bunch of right wing liars.

what where the reasons you ever voted Labour?
 
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patricks148 said:
the conservatives had has as election pledges in their last 3 Gov, to reduce imigration and have set targets, in that time they have not met those targets in fact its gone up and the rise has been those from outside the EU that they do have control over and what did they do to inforce that??? cut Border force staff

its a great hook for the Tory's keep on about Imigration all the while doing nothing about it, and why? they can keep rolling out they are ani imigaration and people like you will lap it up and keep voting for them
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Here lies the irony .. you have a government who has missed every target going and not delivered anything but hardship .. then you have an opposing party that the opposition are saying going to be ruthlessly efficient and achieve their manifesto which will destroy the country ... Haven't the last 20 years shown us that you cannot deliver on all your manifesto promises and therefore the doom mongering we hear is just doom mongering ? I would be more worried a lack of progress and how easy it is to make throw away comments in the manifesto and for me that is the present governments problem they have done nothing for the engine room of the UK whilst in office. In fact they have dismantled it and made it less efficient to suit their own ends.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I notice you do not deny my comment, just more deflection and waffle when dealt with an uncomfortable truth......….it's the Tory way.
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Oh the irony.... Roll out the Tory way comment, yet when someine quotes you on tripe you post and corrects you with facts you simply slope your shoulders and fail to respond at all... Its the Doon Way ?
 
harpo_72 said:
Yes brave ... or was it the naivety of youth?
I really struggle with career politicians, for me irrespective which side of the house you stand I would prefer you to have a life experience which means I expect you to be 40 ish or more. I know it's ageist but let me put it like this would you like a young doctor fresh out of med school to diagnose you or a mechanic fresh out of college fixing your car .. they may well find the answer and resolve,but some stuff is not about training it's about experience.
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Don't know. There's an argument that as you get older you just get more set in your ways and are more likely to want to maintain the status quo. Where as younger voices can bring some fresh perspective and shake things up if needed. Look at the climate change agenda that has effectively been energized by a 16 year old. To me you need a mix, of course you do need experience so it is not just full of young idealistic dreamers, but also some new energy and fresh ideas are challenging of doing things the same old way is also needed.
 
Hacker Khan said:
I suspect at this stage after weeks of orchestrated fake news, promises that have been exposed as at best fanciful and at worst utterly unachievable, claims of antisemitism, Islamophobia, etc etc not many are going change their minds now. Didn't see the interview but both sides have very poor members of the cabinets/shadow cabinets who frankly, if it was based on competency, should not be there. It's just that their ideologies match those of the dear leader and they can be relied on to toe the party line like a programmed robot . Indeed both sides have very prominent members of the party who have been hidden away from the public as they are deemed to be so toxic. Which kind of says it all really. But I'll go back to an old sore and say at least she fronted up and was prepared to answer which I assume were tricky questions.
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Indeed - wherefore art thou Rees-Mogg, Fysh, Bridgen, Francois and your ilk - let's be hearing you...plenty loud enough and happy to be in the media spotlight over the last few years...silent these days. I wonder why Team ERG are all but invisible to the electorate. Perhaps CCHQ don't want them representing Tories who want to GBD.

Anyway - Ashworth - good to hear some truths before he had to wriggle and squirm - rather unedifyingly and not at all convincingly.
 
spongebob59 said:
What did she say/do ? We may not see this down here.
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It was on GMB so national. I don't normally watch, Piers Morgan :eek:, but the BBC had a story on that I wasn't interested in and so I turned over. He asked her about the position on Brexit, a negotiating team with people who want to stay on it, and the renewal of Trident / Corbyn saying he would never press the button. She was a rabbit in the headlight and then started answering a completely different question each time in a stumbling manner, something Piers was not having. It was just plain poor. After that I turned over and John McDonnel was on answering about the Ashworth leak yesterday. You may not like his politics but McDonnel can handle himself well and brushed it off quite comfortably.

If you are going to put up politicians the day before an election then you have to make sure they are competent.

I agree with HK comment about both sides having inept, career politicians but the smart parties keep them hidden with one day to go.
 
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