HughJars
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Third biggest party, about to get bigger, and here you are spouting off on politics while admitting you know nothing about the SNP? wow
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What is the raison d'etre of the SNP?
In national terms are they anything other than a single issue party?
Are they fielding candidates outside of Scotland?
If they achieve their objective then what relevance is Scotland to the rest of the UK?
Are we all to be given a vote if there should be a further referendum on Scottish independence?
Answer each of those questions before suggesting SNP are relevant to the vast majority of the electorate.
Doon frae Troon
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Missed your request sorry,
It is freely available on the web, only takes a couple of clicks for you to find out.
Off the top of my head.
Corbyn says he will shut down MI5 [It was actually a McDonald ref]
Saying SNP have to join the Euro
20,000 additional policemen.
50,000 more Nurses.
There you go, two clicks and take your pick,
https://www.bing.com/search?q=johns...s=n&sk=&cvid=f9eb11712e0d4ba7a5a841900c48551c
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It may sound crazy; but even though they are the 3rd biggest party, and their vote (in HoC) therefore holds a lot of weight, and they are anti-Brexit, they are pretty much an irrelevance to me because I'm not Scottish and they aren't standing in my constituency.
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And Labour's current promises to WASPI women?
Cut rail fares by a third?
Neither yet costed but still "promised".
Where is any of that any different?
And yes it was known that Blair and Campbell were lying on WMD.
And Wilson and his then Chancellor knew that they were misleading the public to get us to believe that devaluation would have no effect upon us.
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Not available as a choice here so irrelevant.
maybe to you personally but not as far as the current election is concerened.
Doon frae Troon
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Come counting time on 12th Dec and the SNP may hold the balance between a Labour or Tory government I think you may find them of influence.
The SNP's Economic White Paper pre the last IndyRef... Mmm, not many unicorn galloping up Princess St.
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And therein lies the failure of our electoral system.
A party that is not available as a choice to 90% of the electorate can support a minority government.
And before you ask, yes I feel exactly the same towards the DUP and Plaid Cymru.
Doon frae Troon
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Most of the Scots posters on here have been saying for the last 5 years how totally useless the Westminster system is.
Outdated and unfit for purpose.
A modern voting system would break up the two party monopoly and give the UK public a more representative parliament.
Guess which two parties would block any hope of it happening.
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Most of the Scots posters on here have been saying for the last 5 years how totally useless the Westminster system is.
Outdated and unfit for purpose.
A modern voting system would break up the two party monopoly and give the UK public a more representative parliament.
Guess which two parties would block any hope of it happening.
And I have long shared that view and my entire voting life I have wanted to see some form ofPR introduced that would more accurately reflect the choice of the people.
Doon frae Troon
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I thought your 'and they were' comment was agreeing that the British public were stupid.
Thought you had gone all Pinocchio on us.
harpo_72
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I do find the comment about wmds all a bit silly ..
We know there were none, but who reported out they existed and who has benefited from that lie ?
We certainly haven't, nor have the Iraquies (dunno how you spell that and nor does the spell checker
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I can only point the finger at the right wing Bush administration who duped the British .. should we have been more diligent ? yes, but the CIA are bloody good liars (Boris needs to go to Langley and get some tips)
So I find blaming Blair a little opportunistic from the people on the right side and we never talk about how Thatcher made the Falklands look an interesting enterprise for Argentina ...
We know there were none, but who reported out they existed and who has benefited from that lie ?
We certainly haven't, nor have the Iraquies (dunno how you spell that and nor does the spell checker
).I can only point the finger at the right wing Bush administration who duped the British .. should we have been more diligent ? yes, but the CIA are bloody good liars (Boris needs to go to Langley and get some tips)
So I find blaming Blair a little opportunistic from the people on the right side and we never talk about how Thatcher made the Falklands look an interesting enterprise for Argentina ...
harpo_72
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This is exactly the issue, they are only in one area of the UK.
Thankfully from my perspective they are left of centre, had they been right of centre we would be governed by the Tories all the time, but then we would not have any complaints or comments about wee jimmy krankie....
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I do find the comment about wmds all a bit silly ..
We know there were none, but who reported out they existed and who has benefited from that lie ?
We certainly haven't, nor have the Iraquies (dunno how you spell that and nor does the spell checker
I can only point the finger at the right wing Bush administration who duped the British .. should we have been more diligent ? yes, but the CIA are bloody good liars (Boris needs to go to Langley and get some tips)
So I find blaming Blair a little opportunistic from the people on the right side and we never talk about how Thatcher made the Falklands look an interesting enterprise for Argentina ...
Blair was the very definition of an opportunist!
It is naive in the extreme to think that he was duped by the CIA. He may have had any number of reasons for involving this country in an illegal war.
Regarding Thatcher and the Falklands conflict it's ridiculous to attempt to define that as right/left issue or to believe that there was not some opposition to it in this country.
harpo_72
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What did Thatcher do about the nationality rights of the Falkland Islanders ?
Tashyboy
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Missed your request sorry,
It is freely available on the web, only takes a couple of clicks for you to find out.
Off the top of my head.
Corbyn says he will shut down MI5 [It was actually a McDonald ref] and Diane Abbott.
Saying SNP have to join the Euro
20,000 additional policemen.
50,000 more Nurses.
There you go, two clicks and take your pick,
https://www.bing.com/search?q=johnson's+four+lies+to+Marr&form=EDGSPH&mkt=en-gb&httpsmsn=1&msnews=1&plvar=0&refig=f9eb11712e0d4ba7a5a841900c48551c&PC=HCTS&sp=-1&pq=johnson's+four+lies+to+marr&sc=0-27&qs=n&sk=&cvid=f9eb11712e0d4ba7a5a841900c48551c
As mentioned our beloved Shadow Home Secretary has spoken about wanting to get rid of MI5. And as much has been rightly said about Boris telling porkies in an interview. There is also a glowing concern as regards why a lot of Labours front bench are not giving interviews. Reasons/rumours range from front benchers being thick to not agreeing with Corbyns policies.
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I'm no Blair Fan, but what precisely did he gain by the GW?
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I have already said that I do not consider the Falklands conflict and its aftermath to be our finest hour.
Presented as being a fight for the rights of the islanders to determine their own status but in truth had far more to do with minerals and oil rights.
However, two wrongs do not make a right and it in no way absolves Blair from his guilt over Iraq.
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