Am I a bad person?

therod said:
public airing may cause distress to others. In this case they were publically aired
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I'm not referring to the advert as I don't see as that's anything to do with homosexuality. What I mean is that we all have certain ways of seeing the world about us and these reasons are not as simple as you're old and I'm young so that's the reason you are wrong. For example I don't like to see anyone kissing intimately in public no matter what their sexuality, Rod will probably suggest that's because I'm one of the 'Grey Army' but do you know what, I find someone publicly saying that to me offensive as it suggests my age disallows me of somehow having an objective view. As I said previously, we all have our perceptions and we should have freedom of thought and speech as long as we are not deliberately offending others.
 
We're in agreement then. Objection to overt public affection is ok as long as that objection is inclusive. Hetro, homo, grey etc
 
SocketRocket said:
I'm not referring to the advert as I don't see as that's anything to do with homosexuality. What I mean is that we all have certain ways of seeing the world about us and these reasons are not as simple as you're old and I'm young so that's the reason you are wrong. For example I don't like to see anyone kissing intimately in public no matter what their sexuality, Rod will probably suggest that's because I'm one of the 'Grey Army' but do you know what, I find someone publicly saying that to me offensive as it suggests my age disallows me of somehow having an objective view. As I said previously, we all have our perceptions and we should have freedom of thought and speech as long as we are not deliberately offending others.
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This is exactly it. I thought this was going to be a serious thread about attitudes towards homosexuality only to find it was about an advert that has nothing to do with homosexuality other than trying an absurd take on a crude stereotype as an attempt at humour. Anyone who was actually offended by that ad to the point of complaining needs to take a long look at themselves.

I agree with you about attitudes. I also don't enjoy people playing tonsil tennis in public but they can go beyond what I find comfortable without actually doing anything wrong. I know and accept that so wouldn't do or say anything.

I can also accept that people over a certain age (and I include myself) were brought up in a culture that said "homosexuality was wrong" and those attitudes were ingrained in all of us. That's why so many gay people found it hard to accept their sexuality. Fortunately times are changing. So there's nothing wrong with someone who isn't comfortable seeing gay people on the telly, provided they realise intellectually that there's nothing wrong with it and just accept it's out there. Personally, I have a problem with peas, awful things, but I know that it's just me and plenty of people like them so I don't feel the need to phone the BBC everytime they serve them up in the Cafe in Albert Square.
 
FairwayDodger said:
This is exactly it. I thought this was going to be a serious thread about attitudes towards homosexuality only to find it was about an advert that has nothing to do with homosexuality other than trying an absurd take on a crude stereotype as an attempt at humour. Anyone who was actually offended by that ad to the point of complaining needs to take a long look at themselves.

I agree with you about attitudes. I also don't enjoy people playing tonsil tennis in public but they can go beyond what I find comfortable without actually doing anything wrong. I know and accept that so wouldn't do or say anything.

I can also accept that people over a certain age (and I include myself) were brought up in a culture that said "homosexuality was wrong" and those attitudes were ingrained in all of us. That's why so many gay people found it hard to accept their sexuality. Fortunately times are changing. So there's nothing wrong with someone who isn't comfortable seeing gay people on the telly, provided they realise intellectually that there's nothing wrong with it and just accept it's out there. Personally, I have a problem with peas, awful things, but I know that it's just me and plenty of people like them so I don't feel the need to phone the BBC everytime they serve them up in the Cafe in Albert Square.
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Bit of hyperbole I think FD, no one phoned the BBC.
I did actually start this thread in a serious feeling of being labelled myself.
As so often on the forum there are sensible comments and some not so ,in my opinion ,of course.
It seems some commentators do not read the whole thread but latch onto the things that suit their own views.
I believe in live and let live but not so sure that pressure groups do the same
Anyway I feel a little happier at the moment, England have just beaten France despite not playing their best rugby.
 
FairwayDodger said:
This is exactly it. I thought this was going to be a serious thread about attitudes towards homosexuality only to find it was about an advert that has nothing to do with homosexuality other than trying an absurd take on a crude stereotype as an attempt at humour. Anyone who was actually offended by that ad to the point of complaining needs to take a long look at themselves.

I agree with you about attitudes. I also don't enjoy people playing tonsil tennis in public but they can go beyond what I find comfortable without actually doing anything wrong. I know and accept that so wouldn't do or say anything.

I can also accept that people over a certain age (and I include myself) were brought up in a culture that said "homosexuality was wrong" and those attitudes were ingrained in all of us. That's why so many gay people found it hard to accept their sexuality. Fortunately times are changing. So there's nothing wrong with someone who isn't comfortable seeing gay people on the telly, provided they realise intellectually that there's nothing wrong with it and just accept it's out there. Personally, I have a problem with peas, awful things, but I know that it's just me and plenty of people like them so I don't feel the need to phone the BBC everytime they serve them up in the Cafe in Albert Square.
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:thup:

Not even petit pois?
 
dewsweeper said:
Bit of hyperbole I think FD, no one phoned the BBC.
I did actually start this thread in a serious feeling of being labelled myself.
As so often on the forum there are sensible comments and some not so ,in my opinion ,of course.
It seems some commentators do not read the whole thread but latch onto the things that suit their own views.
I believe in live and let live but not so sure that pressure groups do the same
Anyway I feel a little happier at the moment, England have just beaten France despite not playing their best rugby.
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Not hyperbole, I was giving a different analogy.

Sorry, I initially engaged very seriously with this thread but lost the plot a bit when I realised which advert had provoked it. Really doesn't seem much to do with homosexuality to me, just a pretty irritating advert.
 
dewsweeper said:
Following on from another thread.
I do not like to see males kissing before the watershed.
It seems this had made me a sexist,homophobic person.
I do not think I am but I also dislike the advert for insurance featuring stereotypes of gays of both sexes posturing and hip grinding in the early afternoon.
I am almost certainly one of the older men on the forum and feel I have travelled a long way from my formative years in the 1940/s and 1950/s .
Just my view but I feel there is much more male on male sexual action on TV recently and that in itself is not the problem but the feeling to me that there is an agenda to this.
I await my condemnation with some trepidation.
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I agree with all that you have posted and I was born in the 50's so maybe a bit of a generation thing, the most telling point of your post for me was the comment that there is so much male on male sexual action on tv as you put it.

I feel this is out of proportion and not a reflection of the world I live in and makes me feel uncomfortable watching.

The advert which featured two males kissing was shown when my 3 grandchildren aged 8 ,7 and 5 were down and made me feel uncomfortable, this was probebly the first time they would have seen this, so this got me thinking afterwards what I would have said if they asked any questions.

I would like to think I would have been honest and truthful with them and explained if two people love each other it doesn't matter what gender they are.

Does this make me a bad person for not wanting to watch so much of this on tv especially pre watershed? I would hope not but some might not agree.
 
Rlburnside said:
I agree with all that you have posted and I was born in the 50's so maybe a bit of a generation thing, the most telling point of your post for me was the comment that there is so much male on male sexual action on tv as you put it.

I feel this is out of proportion and not a reflection of the world I live in and makes me feel uncomfortable watching.

The advert which featured two males kissing was shown when my 3 grandchildren aged 8 ,7 and 5 were down and made me feel uncomfortable, this was probebly the first time they would have seen this, so this got me thinking afterwards what I would have said if they asked any questions.

I would like to think I would have been honest and truthful with them and explained if two people love each other it doesn't matter what gender they are.

Does this make me a bad person for not wanting to watch so much of this on tv especially pre watershed? I would hope not but some might not agree.
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As been asked - would you have felt any different if it was a male or female kissing ?

The real world has couples from same sex everywhere - it's real life and from what I seen is still under represented within the media , sport etc because some still see it negatively and people in same sex relationships are still treated poorly and not fully accepted in society when imo they should be.
 
Rlburnside said:
I agree with all that you have posted and I was born in the 50's so maybe a bit of a generation thing, the most telling point of your post for me was the comment that there is so much male on male sexual action on tv as you put it.

I feel this is out of proportion and not a reflection of the world I live in and makes me feel uncomfortable watching.

The advert which featured two males kissing was shown when my 3 grandchildren aged 8 ,7 and 5 were down and made me feel uncomfortable, this was probebly the first time they would have seen this, so this got me thinking afterwards what I would have said if they asked any questions.

I would like to think I would have been honest and truthful with them and explained if two people love each other it doesn't matter what gender they are.

Does this make me a bad person for not wanting to watch so much of this on tv especially pre watershed? I would hope not but some might not agree.
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Mr Rib it is part of the world you live in just maybe not your street.

ah told you last week someone had a pea phobia, mines sprouts, some folks are pot noodles.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
As been asked - would you have felt any different if it was a male or female kissing ?

The real world has couples from same sex everywhere - it's real life and from what I seen is still under represented within the media , sport etc because some still see it negatively and people in same sex relationships are still treated poorly and not fully accepted in society when imo they should be.
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Well I will be totally honest and say if it was to females kissing after the watershed I wouldn't object to it .

Why state the real world has couples from the same sex everywhere- its real life,

We all know that .

I don't agree with you saying it's under represented in the media not from what I see on tv.

Sport etc. is a area I would agree with you on but then that's not what was asked.
 
Tashyboy said:
Mr Rib it is part of the world you live in just maybe not your street.

ah told you last week someone had a pea phobia, mines sprouts, some folks are pot noodles.
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Cant understand that reply, would suggest you re-read the post again and try to understand it better.:thup:
 
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