AI, should we be developing it?

[Voyager EMH]

I felt that I did not have enough knowledge on this subject, so I endeavoured to inform myself further.

Q:
Is the development of AI worth the amount of electrical energy it uses?

A:
AI development can be worth the energy it consumes—but only if its benefits outweigh its environmental costs and if the industry commits to sustainable practices.
The energy demands of artificial intelligence are undeniably massive, especially as generative models scale up. But the value of AI depends on how it's used and whether its deployment is responsible.

 

[Orikoru]

But did you watch it for longer than a few seconds. If you did you’ve just inadvertently proven the point to it. Someone made it knowing it would click bait others into watching it, each view that got improved their algorithm and thus adding a few pence to their digital bank account, each view adds up and money is made. That in itself in the singular point to what you watched.

That's not really an argument against making them illegal though is it?

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

That's not really an argument against making them illegal though is it?

You asked what the point was not for an argument to make it illegal
You’ve proven the point stop clicking on them they stop earning and appearing in your feeds

 

[Orikoru]

You asked what the point was not for an argument to make it illegal
You’ve proven the point stop clicking on them they stop earning and appearing in your feeds

I don't click on them they appear while scrolling Facebook. Soon as I realise it's "made by AI" I move on. What you've said is, they have a point to the person creating them, but they don't have any worthwhile point to society as a whole. To reference the OP, I don't think we should be building new power stations to make more of these.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

I don't click on them they appear while scrolling Facebook. Soon as I realise it's "made by AI" I move on. What you've said is, they have a point to the person creating them, but they don't have any worthwhile point to society as a whole. To reference the OP, I don't think we should be building new power stations to make more of these.

Oh I completely agree with you but the only way to stop them would be get rid of social media. Facebook isn’t a place to catch up with distant friends anymore, instagram is rarely seeing photos of mates or family and TikTok is just random garbage. All SM platforms have become giant advertising spaces and voids of reels that people will watch endlessly thus creating a bigger platform for these AI generated videos and making more money for them.

The only way to stop it is to take away the platform or get the owners to put in rules that mean it must all be user generated it that doesn’t create bigger revenues for them. So it’s great question you pose. How do you stop it?? I don’t think you can it’s only going to grow.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Oh I completely agree with you but the only way to stop them would be get rid of social media. Facebook isn’t a place to catch up with distant friends anymore, instagram is rarely seeing photos of mates or family and TikTok is just random garbage. All SM platforms have become giant advertising spaces and voids of reels that people will watch endlessly thus creating a bigger platform for these AI generated videos and making more money for them.

The only way to stop it is to take away the platform or get the owners to put in rules that mean it must all be user generated it that doesn’t create bigger revenues for them. So it’s great question you pose. How do you stop it?? I don’t think you can it’s only going to grow.

When you see there is already an AI generated catwalk model and an AI generated actress already been created and used, I think we as a society need to look at where this is going.
For me, it’s all very worrying, and really do have concerns for the current and future young of this World. I would suggest it is more concerning than global warming.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

When you see there is already an AI generated catwalk model and an AI generated actress already been created and used, I think we as a society need to look at where this is going.
For me, it’s all very worrying, and really do have concerns for the current and future young of this World. I would suggest it is more concerning than global warming.

Totally agree , as a parent with young and very influenced teenage daughters who lap up the SM world as most kids their age do now it’s of huge concern to their mental well being, their future prospects and development.

 

[Neilds]

I think (hope?) that a lot of the AI generated stuff on social media will die out once people realise it is just a bit of a fad. People will hopefully learn that just because we can do something with AI , doesn't mean we should do it. This will leave the capacity to do proper stuff like analysis and suchlike.

 

[jim8flog]

Watching A1 produced videos and watching cartoons/CGI

What is the difference?

 

[Neilds]

Watching A1 produced videos and watching cartoons/CGI

What is the difference?

One is trying to deceive the viewer - in lots of cases.

 

[jim8flog]

One is trying to deceive the viewer - in lots of cases.

Are you saying the Na'vi are not real ?

 

[Neilds]

Are you saying the Na'vi are not real ?

I had to google what you were on about
If you had asked about Tom and Jerry then it would have been a better reference for me

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Watching A1 produced videos and watching cartoons/CGI

What is the difference?

The involvement of humans is still very present with CGI creations. CGI does precisely what the human tells it to do, nothing more. AI is given parameters by a human and then takes its knowledge to create something on its own. It's a creation using human knowledge but the AI puts it together.

 

[Tashyboy]

Seems that some are already developing it

Scammers are using AI to lure shoppers to fake businesses

Foreign firms use AI-generated images and false back stories to pose as family-run UK businesses.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Golf is fun]

AI is simply a tool, how we choose to use it and what direction we go in with it is up to us. Can it be used for negative purposes, yes, but so can many other things, but the potential good can outweigh the bad. Is it going through a bit of a fad at the moment and being overused, I'd say so, but that's generally true of all innovation until we fully understand it's strengths. Do I think AI will take your job, probably not, but the person who uses AI might.

In my job AI has been thoroughly embraced, and it's really useful. It's effectively like having a bunch of juniors that you can ask to do things to help you. However the juniors have the mentality of toddlers, very, very fast toddlers. You have to give them very clear and explicit instructions and you have to check what they bring back to you, sometimes they lie. It's not really truly intelligent, it's just a model with a very, very large dataset that it has been trained on, and maintains context of a decent chunk of it's recent requests and actions.
You can't just trust it blindly, but say you're working with code or large data sets, it can look through find and change things quicker than you can, you just need to check it's work afterwards, which makes it sounds pointless, but it saved you the time of the initial search. It's also really good if you want to throw together a proof of concept with code. I wouldn't trust the code it produces in production, but it's great to quickly mock something up to show or get a feel of, before committing time money and resource to a project.

 

[Robster59]

Maybe we could save resources by making "Made with AI" videos on social media illegal. Has there ever been such a pointless waste of time and space? Really annoys me. Saw one the other day that was a car towing a large boat along a narrow round on the side of a mountain - might've been interesting if it was real, but it was made by AI. What's the point??

I saw that. I'm getting heartily sick of them.

 

[WorldHandicapSystem]

AI is simply a tool, how we choose to use it and what direction we go in with it is up to us. Can it be used for negative purposes, yes, but so can many other things, but the potential good can outweigh the bad. Is it going through a bit of a fad at the moment and being overused, I'd say so, but that's generally true of all innovation until we fully understand it's strengths. Do I think AI will take your job, probably not, but the person who uses AI might.

In my job AI has been thoroughly embraced, and it's really useful. It's effectively like having a bunch of juniors that you can ask to do things to help you. However the juniors have the mentality of toddlers, very, very fast toddlers. You have to give them very clear and explicit instructions and you have to check what they bring back to you, sometimes they lie. It's not really truly intelligent, it's just a model with a very, very large dataset that it has been trained on, and maintains context of a decent chunk of it's recent requests and actions.
You can't just trust it blindly, but say you're working with code or large data sets, it can look through find and change things quicker than you can, you just need to check it's work afterwards, which makes it sounds pointless, but it saved you the time of the initial search. It's also really good if you want to throw together a proof of concept with code. I wouldn't trust the code it produces in production, but it's great to quickly mock something up to show or get a feel of, before committing time money and resource to a project.

I agree with this.

I don’t think we have true AI yet. What we have is machine learning and some very powerful computers that are able to search, reason and calculate so fast they seem intelligent.

But like anything. Rubbish in = rubbish out.

I have access to Chat GPT pro and I’m just starting to look at building some agents to test. I use it almost every day to do the mundane tasks that don’t really add value. As you say, it’s like having assistants. I have a number of separate projects in Chat GPT. One of them is for checking certain types of documents we receive for specific information, or more importantly missing information. Because I am running the checks in the same project and have been providing feedback. The processing time, feedback and accuracy is spot on.
I used to have one of my team do the checking which would take anywhere from half a day to two days depending on the size and complexity of a project. Now it takes minutes.