2022 World Cup.

[GreiginFife]

1-1, Mbappe to score, Ottamendi & Upamecano to get booked...

Or at least I bloody hope so at 160-1

 

[Piece]

I hope noone wins ?

 

[Imurg]

I hope noone wins ?

Who does he play for..?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No one is talking about 'lump it football'.
Morocco were very good at close ball control whilst running at speed, generally in threes and fours. USA were also lively and played with fast attacking skills.
Rather like the Dutch style of a couple of decades ago.

Tippy Tappy football is certainly not entertaining, drives new fans away.
Go out and win should be the thinking before a game not make sure you don't lose.

“Drives new fans away” ??

Any chance of providing context to that please

And Morocco played a high press looking to create pressure and then go on the break - it’s a tactic that a number of teams employ , but it doesn’t always win trophies as we can see by the two teams in the final.

Not sure what teams you believe play not to lose but it’s not the teams that win trophies

And USA ? Again the odd game where some sets up to counter and then breaks at pace isn’t new and certainly won’t represent a shift in power

You keep saying “tippy tappy” football but which teams are you referring to ? At least provide some context ?

What’s your definition of Standard in the context you wrote it.?

- Hoddle , Hansen , Molby - now those level of players are the standard and players need to be extra ordinary to stand out.

To me that is saying that by todays ratings they are ordinary and players of today need to be better, or as you say extra ordinary.

It means exactly what it says - those players who were very comfortable with the ball at their feet were at lot rarer in the 70/80/90’s so they stood out - now there a lot more players who are a lot more comfortable with the ball at their feet and a good number more who are better. Yes the level of the game has increased hugely so players now need to be a lot better to stand out

As for goalies and feet, you have not addressed my point that they need not be “good” with their feet because they shouldn’t be in a tactic where they need to be. I.e. tippy tappy with backs in dangerous areas, in order to achieve what?

“Tippy tappy” ?! Why do you call it that when it’s about possession football ?

Here it is in a nutshell - a lot more teams sit deep now , they sit deep looking to find a way to soak up pressure and then to break quickly

Teams try and combat that by trying to bring people out by controlling the ball , passing it around , trying to get teams to press higher and keeping the ball - that including a goalkeeper who can be comfortable with the ball at his feet , invite players to dive in which has the potential to then have that player out of the game for long enough to bring others out of their position.

You can call it tippy tappy if you want but that just shows a lack of understanding of why teams want to protect and keep the ball

If you want to see some teams that do it well - pick the the Spain team that won the WC and two European Champions , the France team that won the World Cup , the Barcelona team which won everything

Teams can’t win if they can’t control the ball and possession

Anyway, I’ve made the point more than once , I don’t intend to go on in a me and you , me and you thread?. We’ve made our points. Let’s not bore further.

It’s just a conversation ?‍

 

[AmandaJR]

Lloris staying down long enough for the tactical advice to come in from the sidelines

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Matterface,Dixon and Mccoist on ITV.

BBC it is then!

But they have jermaine jenas as co-commentator . Biggest game of the year and jermaine gets the gig

 

[Swango1980]

But they have jermaine jenas as co-commentator . Biggest game of the year and jermaine gets the gig

I see your point, but who was the alternative? Dion Dublin?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I see your point, but who was the alternative? Dion Dublin?

Dion is never the alternative ?

 

[Swango1980]

Ohh dear Dembele, not in a World Cup final

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But they have jermaine jenas as co-commentator . Biggest game of the year and jermaine gets the gig

Would take McCoist over Jenas and most others

Not sure why Dublin gets a hard deal - he gets loads of stick but surely he can say what he wants after putting a nut on Savage

edit - minimal contact , didn’t need to do it , bought a penalty

 

[clubchamp98]

Bit of a soft penalty .

 

[Billysboots]

Bit of a soft penalty .

Very soft. Let’s hope that doesn’t decide this game.

 

[BrianM]

Ohh dear Dembele, not in a World Cup final

Sunday league foul, ref had no choice ?

 

[srixon 1]

An early goal, great for us neutrals if it opens up the game. France will have to try harder now.

 

[BrianM]

Hopefully France will come out and play now, they’ve been poor so far.

 

[Swango1980]

Sunday league foul, ref had no choice ?

I know. He panicked after getting beat. Silly

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Dembele…..It wasn’t me, I never!

commentators saying there wasn’t enough in it for him to go down , etc.
Hey.? Where does the rules say that you can push an opponent in the back?

 

[Beezerk]

Bit of a soft penalty .

Was there any contact? I did't see any until well after Di Maria dived.

 

[Orikoru]

Matterface,Dixon and Mccoist on ITV.

BBC it is then!

Seriously? ITV line up has been far superior this world cup. I just wish it was Laura Woods in studio instead of Poogatch. McCoist is the best co-comms, Keane and Neville in the studio as well, excellent.

 

[clubchamp98]

Very soft. Let’s hope that doesn’t decide this game.

They deserve the lead .
I heard A Taylor was doing the final.
He must be biased then !
So a more neutral ref.??