2022 World Cup.

[Swango1980]

We don’t know. They don’t actually think Neymar was the 5th taker - or so I’ve read on Twitter - so what’s your argument now?

I do take more pleasure at the pain of the Brazilians at the World Cup. What’s wrong with that? They’ve won it 5 times……. That’s enough for a long while

Hang on a second, your the one making the argument, I am simply countering your logic.

You have just spent ages telling us Neymar was taking the last penalty as he is a selfish glory hunter. Now you are suggesting he wasnt taking one at all. So, where is YOUR argument now?

 

[fundy]

We don’t know. They don’t actually think Neymar was the 5th taker - or so I’ve read on Twitter - so what’s your argument now?

I do take more pleasure at the pain of the Brazilians at the World Cup. What’s wrong with that? They’ve won it 5 times……. That’s enough for a long while

I can only imagine the pile on if Phil had said Twitter said Neymar wasnt taking the 5th penalty so it must be true lol

 

[Pin-seeker]

It a funny one. In the African Cup of Nations final, if I remember rightly, Mane went last for Senegal and Salah was due to go last for Egypt. Mane got the winner, Salah never got chance to take his.

I wonder if the same people were so quick to say the reason for this was because both players were a bunch of glory hunters!? Or, maybe it is just a lazy argument when they simply don't like a player, but it is a perfectly reasonable when they like the player?

It’ll definitely be different for Salah,no arrogance with him ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

I can only imagine the pile on if Phil had said Twitter said Neymar wasnt taking the 5th penalty so it must be true lol

Imagine it.
He’s so hard done by ? ?

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Somebody needs to tell this Netherlands side that you don’t win because you made most passes.
All making passes that are easiest for them without regard for the objective…
put the ball into the back of the net.
Much as I’d like to see Argentina and Brazil on the same plane?, I doubt that will happen.

 

[Bdill93]

Hang on a second, your the one making the argument, I am simply countering your logic.

You have just spent ages telling us Neymar was taking the last penalty as he is a selfish glory hunter. Now you are suggesting he wasnt taking one at all. So, where is YOUR argument now?

You’re funny, you love an argument.

My first post was obviously before I read that tweet.

My point stands about taking an early penalty though, why not take it early and get your team ahead rather than wait?

 

[Bdill93]

Statistically the 5th taker doesn’t take a penalty half the time. So leaving the big man to take it really is a silly move

 

[Swango1980]

You’re funny, you love an argument.

My first post was obviously before I read that tweet.

My point stands about taking an early penalty though, why not take it early and get your team ahead rather than wait?

You first post made a point that was very sure that he was a glory hunter. I already made my points as to why this was almost certainly unlikely to be the case. You, and others were still adamant he was a glory hunter, my logic meant nothing. Despite the fact we could go back in time, and document hundreds of occasions the best player has gone last.

Then, suddenly, you read on twitter he may not have been taking one. Might not be true, but you then used that as enough evidence to suggest it blows my argument out of the water. Where, in reality, it blows your glory hunter argument out of the water.

It just reinforces that some are desperate to use any reason they can to fit an agenda. Don't get me wrong, I am not a Neymar fan. I just think it gets a bit mental when certain things are completely twisted to paint a picture. Not just in football, but in everything in life it seems.

 

[Bdill93]

You first post made a point that was very sure that he was a glory hunter. I already made my points as to why this was almost certainly unlikely to be the case. You, and others were still adamant he was a glory hunter, my logic meant nothing. Despite the fact we could go back in time, and document hundreds of occasions the best player has gone last.

Then, suddenly, you read on twitter he may not have been taking one. Might not be true, but you then used that as enough evidence to suggest it blows my argument out of the water. Where, in reality, it blows your glory hunter argument out of the water.

It just reinforces that some are desperate to use any reason they can to fit an agenda. Don't get me wrong, I am not a Neymar fan. I just think it gets a bit mental when certain things are completely twisted to paint a picture. Not just in football, but in everything in life it seems.

I think you overthink things a bit…. You get like this in every thread. ?

 

[Bdill93]

I think you overthink things a bit…. You get like this in every thread. ?

And actually - my first post stated he didn’t have the bottle to take a pen - it stands too. He could have taken the 4th which was a must score - he didn’t. Could have taken 1-3 but he didn’t. Glory hunting 5th or no pen at all, it’s embarrassing that Neymar didn’t take a pen.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Seriously - still going on about the penalties ?

 

[Swinglowandslow]

If ever there was a case for a VAR check, then that pen decision was.
Was the foot taken away from the attacker?
From what Ive seen, it isn’t too clear.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If ever there was a case for a VAR check, then that pen decision was.
Was the foot taken away from the attacker?
From what Ive seen, it isn’t too clear.

VAR check every penalty - looked clear as day to me

 

[Swango1980]

And actually - my first post stated he didn’t have the bottle to take a pen - it stands too. He could have taken the 4th which was a must score - he didn’t. Could have taken 1-3 but he didn’t. Glory hunting 5th or no pen at all, it’s embarrassing that Neymar didn’t take a pen.

And you say I am over thinking?

I think the issue is some don't think enough before opening with some outlandish claim. Then they spend the next 2 or 3 pages thinking of ways to dig themselves out of a hole

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well it’s got interesting now

 

[Pin-seeker]

Seriously - still going on about the penalties ?

Imagine banging on about something for so long hey Phil ?

 

[IanM]

Ah, the Argies..... you know it's coming

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Parades a touch lucky there - could have gone

Not sure why this ref is always touted as one of the best , he has always been shocking

 

[Dando]

I think you overthink things a bit…. You get like this in every thread. ?

He could start an argument in an empty room

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Mental ??? what a brilliant free kick