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2022 World Cup.

Commentators don't drool anywhere near as much, that'll be why. (y)

Because pundits rightly appreciate selfless football. That's what sets him apart from the ego

All about the team

Not complaining when a goal is awarded to your team mate
 
You and the squirrel are biased ;)

Oh, I am definitely biased, everyone is to a certain degree, but even Lineker decided to have a Messi 'love in' after the game.
And 'love in' was his actual phrase, not mine.
Anyhow, we all know Messi is the 4th best player of all time. :whistle:
 
............. and Messi's not even the best Argentinian that's ever been. :p

For some and including me Maradona was better ,
top 5 players ( on ability)for me

Maradona
Ronaldo ( real one )
Messi
Zidane
Ronaldinho
 
For some and including me Maradona was better ,
top 5 players ( on ability)for me

Maradona
Ronaldo ( real one )
Messi
Zidane
Ronaldinho

Staggered Ronaldo isn't in your top 5, but maybe I'm not surprised at all.
He'd probably be in 99% of others' top 5.

For me it's as follows;

1. Ronaldo
═2. Maradona
═2. Best
═4. Messi
═4. Pele

I'd like to squeeze Le Tissier and Modric in, but they're not quite there.
 
Staggered Ronaldo isn't in your top 5, but maybe I'm not surprised at all.
He'd probably be in 99% of others' top 5.

For me it's as follows;

1. Ronaldo
═2. Maradona
═2. Best
═4. Messi
═4. Pele

I'd like to squeeze Le Tissier and Modric in, but they're not quite there.

When it’s comes down to ability, skill levels etc then nope he isn’t in my top 5 -

If you are talking just pure goalscoring then yes he would get into a top 5
 
Staggered Ronaldo isn't in your top 5, but maybe I'm not surprised at all.
He'd probably be in 99% of others' top 5.

For me it's as follows;

1. Ronaldo
═2. Maradona
═2. Best
═4. Messi
═4. Pele

I'd like to squeeze Le Tissier and Modric in, but they're not quite there.

My five, in no particular order…

Messi
Best
CR7
Pele
Iniesta
 
And that of millions of others.

I did see Renaldo live for Manure and he just sat on his backside all game moaning at the referee - Messi would have torn us apart ?
Yeah, Ronaldo was awful for Man Utd. He just never managed to improve his game once he left Sporting Lisbon as a promising youngster. Ohh, what could have been....
 
I was lucky to see Messi a few years ago at Wembley against Spurs in the CL and it was one the best individual displays I've seen live. He barely moved into a sprint yet totally ran the game. Scored 2, started the moves that led to the other goals and hit the woodwork twice. Spurs were a brilliant side back then and they couldn't get near him. Masterclass (y)
 
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