Beezerk
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To be fair, I'd be too busy trying to chase his over-hit pass to worry what he was saying
Brutal ???
2022 World Cup.
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Bdill93
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Trips is a good player, Walker is better - I'd prefer to start walker and bring him off rather than the other way around.
Senegal have a lot of pace on the wings, that's made for Walker and not Trippier.
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normally yes id agree but walker looked a bit off last game. He is returning from injury
I think trippier is the better option
Bdill93
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See I think Walker looked great while he was on
Agree to disagree and move on..
prob best im known for labouring a point.
Bdill93
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Fair play, that's a great lineTo be fair, I'd be too busy trying to chase his over-hit pass to worry what he was saying
.To shout or not to shout? Anyone who has followed Newcastle since Tripper moved there will know that he is instrumental in organising the team, defence in particular. He isn't a Hendo bellower but he has been pivotal in that captaincy role. I don't know if he doesn't feel confident enough at international level to do the same or you just don't pick it up on the tv as he isn't quite as animated as Henderson but he is more than capable of managing a team on the pitch.
I'll be amazed if Henderson starts any of the remaining games. He may be brought on to close a game but he doesn't have the legs or ability now to start a game for England. He may well be a great influence in the dressing room, training ground etc but out on the pitch he gets found out now at the highest level.
Orikoru
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You don't have to imagine it, you can even hear him on the bloody TV coverage.
CountLippe
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Fair play, that's a great line
I'll be amazed if Henderson starts any of the remaining games. He may be brought on to close a game but he doesn't have the legs or ability now to start a game for England. He may well be a great influence in the dressing room, training ground etc but out on the pitch he gets found out now at the highest level.
Is the world cup the highest level though? I doubt we'll see a game which matches a City Liverpool pre season friendly, never mind knockout Champions league / big premier league clashes.
Swango1980
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Agreed with this. The very best club sides can effectively assemble squads full of the world's leading talent. International sides are limited to the players born within their nation (or at least their parents / grand parents in some cases). Players like Haaland, Salah, etc miss out entirely on the World Cup, but would undoubtedly be there if teams were being put together at the highest level. And, on another note, club sides train together day in, day out so they should technically be able to work better as a team when they get it right. Bit more difficult for international sides, when players from all over the place suddenly get together and have different team mates and a different manager.
I'd imagine if Man City or Liverpool were to play against Brazil, Argentina or France 100 times, City or Liverpool would win more than they lose.
So, I wouldn't have though the World Cup is football at the highest level, in a footballing sense. But, it is probably the most prestigious event, and obviously generates the extra national pride amongst fans, that you don't really get at club level. Maybe the World Cup is more comparable to the Ryder Cup in golf. Golf at the highest level would be at the Majors, but the Ryder Cup is on another level in terms of fan engagement, or at least offers a very different fan experience.
I get your point but he may be facing top midfielders still, even if the rest of the team is not great. I don't think Klopp starts him for the key games now does he, if all players are fit? He has a role but he is not 1st on the team sheet.
CountLippe
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I wasn't specifically referring to henderson in this instance, simply the constant reference, mainly by the pundits that this is the highest level. Its simply not. As swango pointed out, it might be the most important/prestigious for the average football fan but the quality isn't there.
Ah, yes. I'd agree with you
ColchesterFC
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I've got a feeling that Southgate is going to revert to type and the line up will be 5-2-3/5-4-1, something like......
Pickford
Trippier, Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw
Rice, Phillips/Henderson
Sterling/Saka, Kane, Mount/Rashford
Set up not to lose rather than to try to win. Keep a clean sheet and hope to nick a goal from somewhere.
Swango1980
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Are you sure he is not going to go out and try and overwhelm the opposition, with the attitude "we don't care how many you will score, we will score more"?
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When all fit he will start Henderson , Fabinho and Thiago
Orikoru
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I feel like that is the line-up against France if we get through. I feel like the Senegal game line-up will be pretty close to the one against Wales. Trippier may come back in, and maybe Saka back in for Foden.
Senegal:
Pickers
Trips, Maguire, Stones, Shaw
Rice, Hendo
Saka, Bellingham, Rashford
Kane
France:
Pickers
Trips, Walker, Maguire, Stones, Shaw
Rice, Hendo
Saka, Rashford/Sterling
Kane
Just my prediction anyway.
SteveW86
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Depends how you interpret the highest level. I'd say the world cup is the highest level and probably the trophy you would want if you could only choose one. However, I would say that the Elite clubs play a higher level of football than the international teams.
fundy
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Why are so many pundits happy for Belgium to "stay in the game until the last 20 mins" lol. Theyre ranked 2nd in the world and on their way out if they dont win
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Great to see Morocco in the league
Always good to see a hammer defender acids the first own goal of the tournament aha
Good game thus far
Always good to see a hammer defender acids the first own goal of the tournament aha
Good game thus far
