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4LEX
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Class performance from England today....
Started the game well, pressing intensely and getting the ball forward quickly. Lots of 50/50 tackles won with ease too. Special mentions to Bellingham for running the midfield with class way beyond his years, Saka for being direct and showing we're a better side without Foden slowing us down and a mention to Harry Kane. Didn't score but was everywhere - dropping deep, out wide, intelligent runs and two assists. He looks to be bang on it and he's a striker who makes everyone else play better.
Still concerned about Maguire. He was a menace from set pieces but got done for the first goal and had some horrific touches. We can't play a back four with him involved against a top side.
Started the game well, pressing intensely and getting the ball forward quickly. Lots of 50/50 tackles won with ease too. Special mentions to Bellingham for running the midfield with class way beyond his years, Saka for being direct and showing we're a better side without Foden slowing us down and a mention to Harry Kane. Didn't score but was everywhere - dropping deep, out wide, intelligent runs and two assists. He looks to be bang on it and he's a striker who makes everyone else play better.
Still concerned about Maguire. He was a menace from set pieces but got done for the first goal and had some horrific touches. We can't play a back four with him involved against a top side.
Swango1980
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I don't remember many horrific touches from him? And, for the goal, he already had double vision.
Sounds like you are looking for anything you can to find negatives with Harry Maguire? You could cherry pick every players moments to find mistakes within a game.
4LEX
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He had a fair few sloppy touches at the back. As for double vision he should've gone down if that was the case, playing on with double vision is ridiculous. What if he does that in a big game and costs us a goal? We've got the potential to win this World Cup, we're not going to face any side as bad as Iran again though. If we've conceded two to them it's fair enough to look closer at the defence.
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He did have a couple of bad touches but then so did Bellingham before his goal, rice a couple times ..
Players make mistakes, he more than made up for it with his header to set up saka
Great team performance
Don't think anyone let the side down
Except var
Swango1980
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England were winning 4-0 against Iran. I'll give him a bit of slack, rather than continue the usual witch hunt.
Was it Stones who made a mistake, that meant Pickford had to pull off a great save? Had that been Maguire, some would be burning effigy's of him
nickjdavis
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Well...I will say with utmost confidence that you will not see a more boring, uneventful game in the entire WC than what has been served up so far by Netherlands and Senegal.
A game utterly devoid of any quality.
...and halfway through writing this the Dutch go and score!!!!
A game utterly devoid of any quality.
...and halfway through writing this the Dutch go and score!!!!
Swango1980
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Attendance in Dutch game been announced as 41,621. The capacity is 40,000
nickjdavis
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And there are still swathes of empty seats that have been empty all game!!!
AmandaJR
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I don't think Maguire did too badly - certainly a menace from set pieces in the opponents box. What bothers me is the amount of times he plays a ball out from the back with lots of air and hang time...just balloons them out there and invites a press (or foul in Iran's case) on the receiving player. I could sense Trippier waiting for the impact as the ball finally arrived at his feet - consequently resulting in a poor touch from him. Mind you some of his passing (Trippier) was very questionable...
All in all a great start but conceding two goals is a concern.
VAR continues to ruin football.
All in all a great start but conceding two goals is a concern.
VAR continues to ruin football.
The criticism of Iran is pretty harsh, the occasion got to them and they ran into an England team that were flying today.
There isn’t really easy games, we’ve seen games where a team might crumble then the week after win again.
Just my humble opinion, I’ll probably get shot down in flames ??
There isn’t really easy games, we’ve seen games where a team might crumble then the week after win again.
Just my humble opinion, I’ll probably get shot down in flames ??
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Statement of fact. Their ranking based on recent wins against Chepstow Town and The Dog and Duck Reserves.
D-S
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The Dog and Duck reserves are quite a good side - tbf.
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Lots of pundits saying how tough they'd be to break down and how well organised they'd be.
Let's see how they do in other games.
Important to win first game, now we move on
sunshine
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There are about a dozen "average" European teams that fail to qualify every WC. Any one of them is better than the asia / oceania / north and central america qualifiers.
If it's not Iran it's Panama, Saudi Arabia, Costa Rica etc. While the likes of Italy, Sweden and Ukraine are at home. Even Scotland would thump these teams.
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Iran had a game plan to sit back and frustrate England. 11 men behind the ball, keep it compact, waste as much time as possible, roll around the floor, try and nick a goal on the counter. Once England scored, the plan was gone and they had nothing else to offer. The fact they scored twice was largely due to sloppiness from England once they had a big lead.
Maybe this game plan will work against US or Wales.
4LEX
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I'm being harsh because you can't write off those mistakes if you want to win a tournament. He'll do the same thing if it's 0-0 in the semi final. Stones isn't a great defender either and gave away the penalty with needless shirt pulling.
People moan about Foden or Maddison not playing yet our success boils down to the defence IMO. I can't see any other way we do well unless we play 5 at the back. Maguire and Stones are the reason why. If only we had Terry and Rio at the back now....
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If Maguire had a good game then the opponent is going to be non league level ?
