10 Golf Myths

[sunshine]

I can't keep saying this in many more different ways, but the point is; yes one or two overhit putts might drop if they are luckily bang on line for the centre of the cup, but the three or four that don't will likely end up as three-putts. So you are worse off overall.

It's the other way round. Clearly better off reaching the hole, you will hole lots and lots more. Post #237

Can't believe I'm still replying

 

[Voyager EMH]

Most of the poor putters I see 3-putt after leaving their first putt short rather than long.
This is poor putters that I am talking about.
They are 4 foot short more often than 3 foot long.

 

[Orikoru]

It's the other way round. Clearly better off reaching the hole, you will hole lots and lots more. Post #237

Can't believe I'm still replying

Why are you assuming you get the line correct every single time?? Baffling. Holing putts isn't simply a question of hitting them hard and hope for the best.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Why are you assuming you get the line correct every single time?? Baffling. Holing putts isn't simply a question of hitting them hard and hope for the best.

Agreed.
Holing putts is simply about hitting them hard enough and hoping for the best.
Getting them on line does also help.

 

[sunshine]

Why are you assuming you get the line correct every single time?? Baffling. Holing putts isn't simply a question of hitting them hard and hope for the best.

ok this is pointless now, because you're not acknowledging any of the sensible comments from multiple posters.

Feel like I need a lesson from bobmac on how to leave a conversation.

 

[Depreston]

Most of the poor putters I see 3-putt after leaving their first putt short rather than long.
This is poor putters that I am talking about.
They are 4 foot short more often than 3 foot long.

Yeah that’s me

 

[3 jabber]

ok this is pointless now, because you're not acknowledging any of the sensible comments from multiple posters.

I couldn't agree more

 

[Dingy]

I haven't read all the posts about putting short or long because there's too many, so I've just decided that if I putt short I'll putt out as normal and if I putt long I'll just give myself the putt. I think that's fair.

 

[CountLippe]

PGA tour stats show that from within 10' 90% of missed putts go past the hole. By the time you get to 20' its 50/50. Over 30' its about 60/40 finishing short. That makes sense.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Been away for 7 days only to come back and see the same conversation about putting is still going on

The way some people are talking it seems like they think others are purposely leaving 10ft putts a foot short of the hole. When in fact if you read what’s actually written it’s about 3 putt avoidance from longer distance. Gotta love a forum and nobody listening to the other side

 

[Whereditgo]

Interesting read.

I think one of the points that is being missed is that what Ori is talking about is strategy over a round, series of rounds or a season. Yes, on any given single putt the one that passes the hole has more chance of going in than the one that never reaches the hole. But, over a larger number of putts centering your dispersion at the hole will give a better return.

Lou Stagner, the stats guy from Arccos Golf, with a data base of something like 780,000,000 golf strokes recently quoted that a 12 handicapper from 15 feet is more likely to 3 putt than make it! 12 handicap and 15 feet being the 'tipping point'.

The other glaring error the smash it past guys are making is they are assuming that the same strategy is applied on short putts, it shouldn't be of course, the front to back dispersion reduces the closer you are to the hole to the point to where the centre of dispersion, or target length, can be past the hole, because the longest of those will still be within tap in range coming back.

 

[3 jabber]

The other glaring error the smash it past guys are making is they are assuming that the same strategy is applied on short putts, it shouldn't be of course, the front to back dispersion reduces the closer you are to the hole to the point to where the centre of dispersion, or target length, can be past the hole, because the longest of those will still be within tap in range coming back.

I don't recall anyone suggest you 'smash it past the hole' but if I'm within a range that I can judge the putt to within 3ft then I'd rather go 3ft passed than 3ft short. Or to put it another way, if I have a 20ft putt then I'd rather aim for the 20-23ft range than 17-20ft range.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

If a ball is on a treadmill and the treadmill moves, will the ball move?

 

[Whereditgo]

I don't recall anyone suggest you 'smash it past the hole' but if I'm within a range that I can judge the putt to within 3ft then I'd rather go 3ft passed than 3ft short. Or to put it another way, if I have a 20ft putt then I'd rather aim for the 20-23ft range than 17-20ft range.

It would be 18.5ft-21.5ft.

You will miss the vast majority of 20ft putts, the 20-23ft you will have a number of knee knockers coming back and you will occasionally miss one of those, the 18.5 - 21.35ft you would have 1.5ft 2nd putts.

 

[Orikoru]

I don't recall anyone suggest you 'smash it past the hole' but if I'm within a range that I can judge the putt to within 3ft then I'd rather go 3ft passed than 3ft short. Or to put it another way, if I have a 20ft putt then I'd rather aim for the 20-23ft range than 17-20ft range.

Why? You missed either way. Going past the hole with the wrong line didn't "have a chance" any more than getting the line correct but 3 inches short of the hole. It's a myth. You either holed it or you got it wrong.

 

[Voyager EMH]

It would be 18.5ft-21.5ft.

You will miss the vast majority of 20ft putts, the 20-23ft you will have a number of knee knockers coming back and you will occasionally miss one of those, the 18.5 - 21.35ft you would have 1.5ft 2nd putts.

I will not conform to this statement.
Of all my 3-putts from 20 feet or so this coming year, the majority will be from the first putt being short of the hole.

When my first putt from this range is a bad one, it will mostly be way too short.
The bad putt that is way too long is more rare.

 

[3 jabber]

It would be 18.5ft-21.5ft.

You will miss the vast majority of 20ft putts, the 20-23ft you will have a number of knee knockers coming back and you will occasionally miss one of those, the 18.5 - 21.35ft you would have 1.5ft 2nd putts.

No I'll stick with my original quote as I don't want to leave putts from 20ft and in short. I'd rather have up to 3ft coming back than not give the first putt a chance of going in. I consider myself a good enough putter to make a very high %age of putts inside 3ft.

 

[Orikoru]

I will not conform to this statement.
Of all my 3-putts from 20 feet or so this coming year, the majority will be from the first putt being short of the hole.

When my first putt from this range is a bad one, it will mostly be way too short.
The bad putt that is way too long is more rare.

Get on the weights then - never up, never in you know. Don't drop your lipstick.. etc etc

 

[3 jabber]

Why? You missed either way. Going past the hole with the wrong line didn't "have a chance" any more than getting the line correct but 3 inches short of the hole. It's a myth. You either holed it or you got it wrong.

All you seem to think about is missing the hole. All I try to think about is holing the putt. See the difference?

 

[Whereditgo]

I will not conform to this statement.
Of all my 3-putts from 20 feet or so this coming year, the majority will be from the first putt being short of the hole.

When my first putt from this range is a bad one, it will mostly be way too short.
The bad putt that is way too long is more rare.

Then perhaps your dispersion is not as tight as you think it is

Move your centre of dispersion to the hole