10 Golf Myths

And your friend was spot on! If you have 18 birdie putts and leave them all short the best you can hope for is level par, at least if you ensure they reach the hole you have a chance to shoot under par. There is nothing more frustrating for good players than leaving birdie chances short :mad:
What difference does it make if you hit them all past the hole? They all still missed but you would consider that a better putting performance?
 
If a putt is on the correct line and it is hit softly it will not go in. If it is hit with a speed that gets it past the hole it usually will.
To a point yes. But the faster the ball is travelling the smaller the effective size of the hole. If you are slightly off centre and the ball is travelling at speed you are increasing the chance of a lip out.
 
To a point yes. But the faster the ball is travelling the smaller the effective size of the hole. If you are slightly off centre and the ball is travelling at speed you are increasing the chance of a lip out.
If it is travelling very fast that is true, but it is also true that a putt travelling very slowly is more likely to be deflected either by imperfections or slight slopes around the hole.
 
@Orikoru if your line is left or right of the hole, the pace is immaterial, totally agree

If your line is perfect then your pace does matter. If it's short, it will never go in. If it's long, but on line then it will go in.

This is the point people are making. Surely you accept that? That's the point of the quote.
But the line is dictated by pace. Both have to be correct for the ball to go in the hole, unless deflected Any putt can be dead straight if travelling fast enough.
 
If it is travelling very fast that is true, but it is also true that a putt travelling very slowly is more likely to be deflected either by imperfections or slight slopes around the hole.
True. The ball travelling too fast can stay straighter and skip off the surface jumping over the hole or not taking the break.

There is an awful lot of luck involved.
 
But the line is dictated by pace. Both have to be correct for the ball to go in the hole, unless deflected Any putt can be dead straight if travelling fast enough.
The whole discussion is around never up never in. If it's short it never will go in, no matter how perfect the line. If it's up and on the right line, it will go in, or has a chance to go in.

It isn't a tricky one 🤷
 
At the instant that the ball leaves the putter...

if it has not been hit hard enough, it will not go in the hole.

This is an important thing to consider when putting for half in matchplay.

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If I had £1 for every time I’ve seen someone smash it 10ft past in this situation, I’d be a lot better off than I am now. Same goes for a free hit in a better ball or scramble.
 
If I had £1 for every time I’ve seen someone smash it 10ft past in this situation, I’d be a lot better off than I am now. Same goes for a free hit in a better ball or scramble.
There are a lot of rubbish putters about.
I don't base my thinking on anything that they do.
Big mistake made by anyone that does.

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I'm really struggling here, you are fixated with putts that miss but don't seem to grasp that some of the putts that are hit hard enough actually go in the hole.
What you don't grasp, is that you either hole a putt or you don't - if it was holed you got the line & speed correct - if it wasn't, then you got one or both of them wrong. Anything else is hypothetical and irrelevant.
 
@Orikoru if your line is left or right of the hole, the pace is immaterial, totally agree

If your line is perfect then your pace does matter. If it's short, it will never go in. If it's long, but on line then it will go in.

This is the point people are making. Surely you accept that? That's the point of the quote.
It's not simply a question of putts holed, we are factoring in three-putt avoidance as well. Someone who routinely tries to hit it two feet past the flag will maybe hole 1 or 2 more, but they'll also three-putt more often when they overdo it. Swings & roundabouts maybe but I prefer to try and get the speed to the hole spot on rather than whacking it past all the time.
 
It's not simply a question of putts holed, we are factoring in three-putt avoidance as well. Someone who routinely tries to hit it two feet past the flag will maybe hole 1 or 2 more, but they'll also three-putt more often when they overdo it. Swings & roundabouts maybe but I prefer to try and get the speed to the hole spot on rather than whacking it past all the time.
Its not simply a matter of putts holed but it is partly a matter of putts holed. And there isn't a simple answer that is the same at all distances, on long putts you should be centering your distance around the hole but this is not true for short to medium length putts. No one hits the speed precisely but if you hit a putt of five feet that is equally likely to have a speed that takes it six inches short or six inches long it is a less good putt than one that is just as likely to go six and eighteen inches long.
 
@Orikoru if your line is left or right of the hole, the pace is immaterial, totally agree

If your line is perfect then your pace does matter. If it's short, it will never go in. If it's long, but on line then it will go in.

This is the point people are making. Surely you accept that? That's the point of the quote.

Anyone arguing with this point is either:
1. On a wind up
2. A terrible putter
 
What you don't grasp, is that you either hole a putt or you don't - if it was holed you got the line & speed correct - if it wasn't, then you got one or both of them wrong. Anything else is hypothetical and irrelevant.
I've seen plenty of putts holed where the speed was clearly wrong but I guess you haven't
 
I've seen plenty of putts holed where the speed was clearly wrong but I guess you haven't
I can't keep saying this in many more different ways, but the point is; yes one or two overhit putts might drop if they are luckily bang on line for the centre of the cup, but the three or four that don't will likely end up as three-putts. So you are worse off overall.
 
Is the speed "wrong" if it's gone in? Or just different from how you would've hit it? 🤔
Could be either, I've seen plenty of putts that would have gone 6ft or more passed the hole if they hadn't smashed into the back of the cup which is clearly wrong speed but lucky.
 
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