sunshine
Well-known member
I like to lay the flag about 2 feet behind the hole to catch all my over hit putts. Flag in/out is irrelevant for you if you leave all your putts short
10 Golf Myths
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I like to lay the flag about 2 feet behind the hole to catch all my over hit putts. Flag in/out is irrelevant for you if you leave all your putts short
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
Agreed, leave it in no point taking it unless it’s already out because someone else further away from the hole wanted it removed.
A lot of golf shirts don’t have turn down collars on them these days. I’d say at least 50% of my golf tops don’t have the standard collation that and they’re every bit as smart as the ones that do.
D-S
Well-known member
I don't think you should ever conflate smart and dress code.
What looks 'correct' to someone who apparently really cares and is deeply concerned what other people choose to wear to play the sport of their choice, and how they wear it, has nothing to do with 'smart'.
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
Fair comment that. I’ll correct myself I feel I look just as smart as I would in a normal polo.
I don’t think there should be dress codes as they are often laid out. A collar ,
Trousers, “golfing attire” doesn’t mean you can’t still look a bag of
, it also doesn’t mean you’re attracting the right sort either ! 
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I am reading 'Putting Out of Your Mind' for the second time at the moment, and happened to stumble across this section:
"THE PROPER PACE of a putted ball has engendered more myths and hogwash than almost anything else in golf. Few people, I suspect, get through their first round of golf without hearing the adage “Never up, never in.” It makes it seem as if the goal in putting is not to get the ball in the hole but to roll it past the hole. At least if you roll it past the hole, no one is going to call you “Alice” and question your boldness, your courage, your manhood.
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I’m sorry, but a miss is a miss—whether it runs a foot past the hole or stops a foot short. You get no extra credit for getting the ball past the hole. Good players understand this. They know that if they’re trying to roll the ball in the hole softly, it’s possible that it will stop a bit short of the hole. If it does, it’s a mistake like any other. They go on. The “never up, never in” concept, mistaken though it is, is nevertheless a model of lucid thinking in comparison to the notion of the green-light putt. The idea of the green-light putt, I suppose, is that this is a putt that the player can safely try to make. This implies that there are red-light putts, putts that are too fast, too slippery to try to make. What is the player supposed to do with them? Try to miss them?
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The truth is that every putt is a green-light putt. That doesn’t mean, of course, that you must hit the ball hard on every putt. Take the twenty-footer that Jim Carter had for his third shot on the final hole of the Tucson Open. It was a down-hill putt and the green was fast. No sensible player would try to hit that putt hard enough so that the ball banged against the back of the cup as it went in. Obviously, in that case, a miss could roll ten feet past the hole. But Jim nevertheless putted to make it. He simply tried to give it a pace to make sure that the ball was dying as it approached the hole. As it happened, he rolled it a couple of feet by.
In the course of a normal round, especially on fast greens, there are going to be some putts like that. When he faces them, a smart player may decide to hit his putt just hard enough to get it into the hole. If he does, he also reads more break into the putt, knowing that a slower putt will be affected more by the contour of the green. But he doesn’t try to miss, doesn’t say to himself, Where do I want to leave this ball for the next putt? He tries to putt the ball into the hole, just as much as he would for an uphill, four-foot par putt."
"THE PROPER PACE of a putted ball has engendered more myths and hogwash than almost anything else in golf. Few people, I suspect, get through their first round of golf without hearing the adage “Never up, never in.” It makes it seem as if the goal in putting is not to get the ball in the hole but to roll it past the hole. At least if you roll it past the hole, no one is going to call you “Alice” and question your boldness, your courage, your manhood.
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I’m sorry, but a miss is a miss—whether it runs a foot past the hole or stops a foot short. You get no extra credit for getting the ball past the hole. Good players understand this. They know that if they’re trying to roll the ball in the hole softly, it’s possible that it will stop a bit short of the hole. If it does, it’s a mistake like any other. They go on. The “never up, never in” concept, mistaken though it is, is nevertheless a model of lucid thinking in comparison to the notion of the green-light putt. The idea of the green-light putt, I suppose, is that this is a putt that the player can safely try to make. This implies that there are red-light putts, putts that are too fast, too slippery to try to make. What is the player supposed to do with them? Try to miss them?
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The truth is that every putt is a green-light putt. That doesn’t mean, of course, that you must hit the ball hard on every putt. Take the twenty-footer that Jim Carter had for his third shot on the final hole of the Tucson Open. It was a down-hill putt and the green was fast. No sensible player would try to hit that putt hard enough so that the ball banged against the back of the cup as it went in. Obviously, in that case, a miss could roll ten feet past the hole. But Jim nevertheless putted to make it. He simply tried to give it a pace to make sure that the ball was dying as it approached the hole. As it happened, he rolled it a couple of feet by.
In the course of a normal round, especially on fast greens, there are going to be some putts like that. When he faces them, a smart player may decide to hit his putt just hard enough to get it into the hole. If he does, he also reads more break into the putt, knowing that a slower putt will be affected more by the contour of the green. But he doesn’t try to miss, doesn’t say to himself, Where do I want to leave this ball for the next putt? He tries to putt the ball into the hole, just as much as he would for an uphill, four-foot par putt."
sunshine
Well-known member
So when you have a 4 foot putt and you dribble it to the hole and it finishes a foot short, at least you can console yourself that a miss is a miss.
sunshine
Well-known member
We've not touched on the biggest myth in golf: drive for show, putt for dough.
Klimski
Well-known member
Over the course of last season I have learned the value of a good drive..perhaps we can bust two myths in one fell stroke: Drive for dough, putt careful and slow
Orikoru
Tour Winner
That's correct though. Why would you rather miss a 4-putt long? That just means your line was horrendous.So when you have a 4 foot putt and you dribble it to the hole and it finishes a foot short, at least you can console yourself that a miss is a miss.
sunshine
Well-known member
I'd rather hole it than leave it short.
But I feel I've done this to death. Laisse tomber.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah so would I! I'd rather hole it than miss. So we're back to "a miss is a miss" being correct.
Mandofred
Well-known member
There is a YouTube I watched the other day with Rahm and Gabbygolfgirl.....Rahm was giving some advice while the girl played. At one point when putting Gabby missed a putt and says something like "always better to miss on the high side", Rahms answer was "Who cares, you missed".
Mandofred
Well-known member
As I was laying in a nice hot bath I started thinking about this. The ol' "never up, never in" comment. It has its merits, but then I started thinking about why I sometimes just play for the 2 putt, and if it goes in on the first, great. How many times do I hit a 20-30 foot putt?....I mean really. I certainly do....but then I asked myself how many times have I gone aggressively at the hole, missed, and ended up with a 3 putt? That is what happens more often. Seems like a bad bet if you were a gambler.
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Deleted member 36152
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Yes we are but there are two types of miss. The one that NEVER has a chance of going in and the one that might get lucky and catch enough of the hole to go in.Yeah so would I! I'd rather hole it than miss. So we're back to "a miss is a miss" being correct.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Any miss never had a chance of going in, because it missed.
irip
Head Pro
There is only one thing that matters if your putt misses and that’s making the next one.
For the vast majority of the time the simplest putt will be the shortest.
I would rather be 1 foot away than 5 foot away, it matters not if the last putt was short or long just the distance for the next putt.
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Deleted member 36152
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I would rather be 2ft long than 1ft short
irip
Head Pro
I find that peculiar, if I miss a putt I would rather be closer for my next one.
Would you rather be 5ft long?
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Few years back playing off about 11, I played a medal with a scratch lad. At the end of the round I commented that I thought I’d putted well - long putts close, no three putts, a few decent putts holed etc.
His response was that I hadn’t really putted that well at all as I never got the ball past the hole…which on reflection was true.
His response was that I hadn’t really putted that well at all as I never got the ball past the hole…which on reflection was true.
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Deleted member 36152
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If I’m a long way from the hole then I’d rather knock it 5ft past the hole than 5ft short. At least I get to see the break coming back.
