I do wonder if the closer to the hole you are, does the percentage of putts left short a) decrease, b) stay the same or c) increase?
Yeah. I’m pretty sure that every golf shot I’ve ever hit between 1 inch and 200 yards from the hole I was trying to get pin high.
Yup. Experts say to make the target as small and precise as possible, hence the 'dustbin lid' idiom is also a bit outdated - along with 'never up never in'.
Haha, yep. If 'attracting all sorts' means less room for people like Michael Britton here, then I'm all for it.
Loved that , but I do play Mizuno forged irons .
Bother. I've gone from edgy to boring in the space of a few minutesI would say you’re a normal regular boring kind of guy as that’s how far most people hit their 7 iron.
The difference is you will admit it
(although, to be fair, self declaring edginess is not really that edgy)
I’d disagree that the bin lid is outdated to a degree. It falls perfectly inline with your shot pattern theory. For example say you said your shot pattern is a circle with a diameter of 2 feet (meaning it is 2 foot from one side to the other through the hole), the circumference would be approximately 6.28 feet.
)And yet at 40 feet as a tour players average proximity is 3-4 feet with only 33% getting it inside 2feet from that distance.
It doesn't upset me as much as NUNI. But I think the idea is basically what @irip said above - once you make your target a foot either side of the hole, and you miss that by two feet, you now have a three-footer. If your target is simply the hole itself, missing it two feet left leaves a two-footer.I’d disagree that the bin lid is outdated to a degree. It falls perfectly inline with your shot pattern theory. For example say you said your shot pattern is a circle with a diameter of 2 feet (meaning it is 2 foot from one side to the other through the hole), the circumference would be approximately 6.28 feet.
Who’s to say you can’t set your own dustbin lid as that size. It’s merely a visual representation that you can use to build an acceptable miss. So if someone is a visual learner it is easier to explain that that it is to give exact numbers all they have to do is change the visual over each putt which is easier and quicker to picture for some than it is to work out the physical size of their miss ratio by feet. (Hope that makes sense it do in my dyslexic brain
Maybe it's just a small distinction between trying to leave it in dustbin lid range, and aiming for the hole but being satisfied if it ends up in dustbin lid range. This sounds way too deep for a discussion about dustbin lids. 
I agree with what you say.I’d disagree that the bin lid is outdated to a degree. It falls perfectly inline with your shot pattern theory. For example say you said your shot pattern is a circle with a diameter of 2 feet (meaning it is 2 foot from one side to the other through the hole), the circumference would be approximately 6.28 feet.
Who’s to say you can’t set your own dustbin lid as that size. It’s merely a visual representation that you can use to build an acceptable miss. So if someone is a visual learner it is easier to explain that than it is to give exact numbers all they have to do is change the visual over each putt which is easier and quicker to picture for some than it is to work out the physical size of their miss ratio by feet. (Hope that makes sense it did in my dyslexic brain
And yet at 40 feet as a tour players average proximity is 3-4 feet with only 33% getting it inside 2feet from that distance.
Scratch players average is just over 5 feet so the normal club golfer proximity is even higher. So your dustbin lid would still be a good miss and if you’re a foot outside of that you’re still in the average range do the majority of handicap golfers.
I get your point though and it kind proves my point above it’s about the visual you’re target isn’t the bin lid it’s the hole, it’s just then what is your acceptable miss range around the hole.
Is the correct answer! The dustbin lid as an acceptable miss was never meant to be to aim to just get it inside the bin lid, the aim was and always should have been the hole but if you didn’t hole it then it should finish within that circumference of the hole.It doesn't upset me as much as NUNI. But I think the idea is basically what @irip said above - once you make your target a foot either side of the hole, and you miss that by two feet, you now have a three-footer. If your target is simply the hole itself, missing it two feet left leaves a two-footer.
I remember a couple of years ago in a mixed foursomes match when my partner said she would just roll the putt up to dustbin lid range - and left it 5 feet short. I remarked that they must have very bin dustbins where she lives.
You Sir have nailed it
How is my comment wrong? What other things can you control with your putter apart from line and length?
I'm curious to know, what distance does your mindset change from 'Lag it close' to 'Let's hole this one'? You sound like a very defensive putter, I'm guessing pretty close maybe 6-8ft?
That really sounds like you don't understand what I'm saying at all. I'm always trying to hole it, or give myself the best chance of holing it - by hitting it the correct speed for it to drop in. But if it doesn't drop, the next best thing is leaving a tap-in. I do not care if that tap-in is a foot short or a foot past the hole. They are worth the same.
I get it
Sorry I stand corrected your honour. Wrong in my opinionThere's only 2 variables you can control: how hard you hit it and the starting line. If you don't hit it hard enough to reach the hole you will never hole anything, regardless of the line.
Please explain what other techniques you are using. Otherwise just looks like you're arguing for the sake of it
