I'm perfectly happy to accept other people have a right to an opinion, nobody seems to accept my right to hold the opposite opinion though.
The point is opinions have no place in a Rule Book, Rules have to deal with fact, as do the interpretations of those Rules but this interpretation is not...
Yes they are but don't look at me when you say that.
Correct.
Nobody's suggested that, I haven't, I'm simply saying the rule needs to be applied accurately, it isn't at this time.
Wrong, not "may", "does" and "does" means it needs to have the necessary hardware AND have an app installed to...
I know and now I'm introducing a general question.
They might know more about the game than the majority but they obviously don't know anything about phones, which was the point I was making.
And you cannot question those rules at all then? This is Golf, it isn't Communist China!
Ooooooh...
Erm, put the phone in the other pocket then?
Interesting philosophical question, is it cheating if no advantage is gained or can be gained?
Still sounds like nonsense to me...
Great point in there about the R&A's iPhone rules app, you have a rules dispute in a comp, a player gets his iPhone out to check the rules on his app, something promoted by the R&A themselves, his partner says "Is that an iPhone 4?", "Yup, why?" "You're disqualified!" because they would be...
And I understand that, and, if truth be told I will abide by it, if the circumstance ever arises, all I'm trying to point out is WHY the R&A's interpretation of the rule is wrong.
I've said it before but I'll repeat it now, the rule itself, as it stands, is fine, there's nothing wrong with the...
Dont' know why it would damage the screen?
If my phone is in my bag it still has the capability to measure distance and to get a weather report off the net, by that token I'm still cheating then? I'm not using either capability but if I use one of them I'm suddenly cheating even if I don't use...
Why? It isn't for the pros, they have caddies that provide the same information and more, so do some of the top amateurs, so do you stop that as well? That's an argument for another thread though.
Exactly, in every other part of the game it's only illegal to actually do something, being able...
How on earth do you get to that conclusion? What I meant was, if you don't want the polite version, was that the argument "use your eyes instead" is quite pathetic (because nobody else in the game is required to do that, so I shouldn't have to) and you're too intelligent for an argument as weak...
No and I still get players arguing with me about it when they think their opponent has fouled and they haven't, precisely because the rule is ambiguous.
And that means we can't discuss the rights or wrongs of that decision does it? Do you employ that attitude in every aspect of your life? I...
Oh granted but I wouldn't need to if you'd all just agree with me! :)
I took the English Pool Association's Refereeing exam a few years back and I gave the answer to the first question wrong, deliberately, because I considered the wording of the rule to be ambiguous. I argued the toss with the...
This is the trouble, the R&A have said it's only a problem if you have an app installed that takes advantage of the functionality, hence the iPhone ban because you can't uninstall the compass. That gives too much of a grey area in my opinion. Either ban the potential functionality or don't...