Your opinion on.... Racism in the movies.

Is the 'N' word OK for black people to use?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 17.3%

  • No

    Votes: 17 32.7%

  • Don't know

    Votes: 4 7.7%

  • Don't care

    Votes: 22 42.3%
  • Total voters
    52
G.U.R said:
I think you tend to lose the moral high ground when you use the word yourself, bit like Tottenham fans using the Y word then getting indignant when others use it.

Racism is just wrong end of.
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There were very few 'tottenham fans' getting indignant about it, quite the opposite in fact.
 
c1973 said:
What?

As opposed to the middle aged black chiefs that sold captured tribesmen?

:whistle:


;)
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The point was to show that middle aged white people can be a force for good in their "pontifications".

They could also have been players in the slave trade as well, but doesnt that show hacker's comments up for tarring a whole section of society with the same brush, based on colour and class.........
 
Liverbirdie said:
The point was to show that middle aged white people can be a force for good in their "pontifications".

They could also have been players in the slave trade as well, but doesnt that show hacker's comments up for tarring a whole section of society with the same brush, based on colour and class.........
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Yep. I got the point you were making. :thup:
 
Hacker Khan said:
Mmmn, lot's of middle aged white golfing men trying to pontificate on the extremely complex history of black culture and specifically the use of the n word. This should be fun...

And as for the OP then you could possibly have tried to explain the historical and cultural implications of the word and why some black people think it is OK to use it. Instead of being lost for words. Plus it's a 15 film, and you say your son is 14.
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What would you call have pre judgemebt of people and what they say based on their age and colour ?
 
"Some of the commentary has been valuably incisive – Brendan O’Neill particularly so: the whole hoo-ha pointing up the insanity of the PC world we’re in, one in which “the context in which words are spoken, and the intention and meaning behind them, count for nothing. So to have a potty-mouthed black comedian say the n-word for very obvious laughs is apparently the same thing as having a white racist shout the n-word in the face of a black man or woman…”"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...y-word-with-hate-behind-it-can-be-racist.html
 
The appropriation of an offensive term is a fantastically effective way to seize back power. However, when that appropriation becomes part of the vocabulary of the next generation, then it has gone too far.
There is a powerful movement in Black American culture right now, led by people such as Chuck D, who want to stop the over-use of the N Word in popular culture. The use of the N word in music and movies (both run predominantly by white social elites) is being targeted and IMO will soon start to disappear... Hopefully...

Ooh, by the way.. I voted "Don't know" as it's a very complex argument..:D
 
palindromicbob said:
"Some of the commentary has been valuably incisive – Brendan O’Neill particularly so: the whole hoo-ha pointing up the insanity of the PC world we’re in, one in which “the context in which words are spoken, and the intention and meaning behind them, count for nothing. So to have a potty-mouthed black comedian say the n-word for very obvious laughs is apparently the same thing as having a white racist shout the n-word in the face of a black man or woman…”"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...y-word-with-hate-behind-it-can-be-racist.html
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It's all about context.

I can't believe some can't see that. Who you are and how you say it dictates the meaning of the word.
 
It come down to intent and context. Bit like the C word. Used primarily as shock tactic but I've seen it in films where it was used in context and to be honest another word wouldn't have fitted. As others have said if modern society uses the N word they can surely have no qualms if it filters into more main stream use
 
What causes offence and why is quite complicated and does not always follow a common rule.

For example: Which of these are offensive and why:

Brit
Ozzie
Paddy
Taffy
Jock
Yank
Paki
Kiwi
 
SocketRocket said:
What causes offence and why is quite complicated and does not always follow a common rule.

For example: Which of these are offensive and why:

Brit
Ozzie
Paddy
Taffy
Jock
Yank
Paki
Kiwi
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As I think you are trying to prove, the context they are used in and the historical connotations will be the major deciding factor in each case.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
It come down to intent and context. Bit like the C word. Used primarily as shock tactic but I've seen it in films where it was used in context and to be honest another word wouldn't have fitted. As others have said if modern society uses the N word they can surely have no qualms if it filters into more main stream use
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In the world of Equality and Diversity, it's impact not intent
 
Quite straight forward really.
We can all use it or no-one can use it.
As with all words, it must be used in an inoffensive manner ........................ obviously.
That word is not property, nobody owns it!


Slime.
 
The word n#*+er has no positive meaning so i dont understand how "its depends on how its used"

Its a dirty, fifthly name/word that should not be used in any way. No matter if its meant in good light or bad.
 
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