World Cup 2018

[Deleted member 16999]

Just seen this, had to share :rofl:

Mark Lawrenson is essentially being paid to watch the World Cup on an all inclusive holiday, and he does so with all the enthusiasm of someone who’s being paid minimum wage to taste-test cat food.

 

[Crazyface]

Messi goal from all angles of the BBC except the one from between the legs of the BBC sport exec. Really? Give me strength. One goal and he's wonderful again. Utter garbage. He'd wouldn't get in a pub team.

 

[pbrown7582]

Just seen this, had to share :rofl:

Mark Lawrenson is essentially being paid to watch the World Cup on an all inclusive holiday, and he does so with all the enthusiasm of someone who’s being paid minimum wage to taste-test cat food.

hey you gave me pelters for moaning about Lawro!

 

[pbrown7582]

Messi goal from all angles of the BBC except the one from between the legs of the BBC sport exec. Really? Give me strength. One goal and he's wonderful again. Utter garbage. He'd wouldn't get in a pub team.

time and time again you football knowledge shows through!

 

[pbrown7582]

Great to see Messi get that goal, control for the goal was sublime.

The touches and fish get lots of praise but, the movement off the ball prior to the superb pass was fantastic as well to wrong foot 2/3 defenders a top quality goal all round!

 

[Orikoru]

time and time again you football knowledge shows through!

Don't rise to that mate. His trolling was almost believable at the start of this but he's gone too far now and made it obvious.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Messi goal from all angles of the BBC except the one from between the legs of the BBC sport exec. Really? Give me strength. One goal and he's wonderful again. Utter garbage. He'd wouldn't get in a pub team.

Well done- I didn’t think anyone could beat your normal inept football knowledge but you continuely prove otherwise

 

[Crazyface]

OK..the whole thing is fixed. This is how it will be next two days to sort groups.

England win to top group but will end up playing Columbia who will beat us by bonkers VAR decision. Belgium will play Senegal (one African team being allowed though). Belgium to win no mither. Brazil to play Sweden. Brazil to win after a long hold out by the Swedes (maybe x-time). Germany to play Switzerland and win after being behind for most of the game. Probably 3-2.

 

[Beezerk]

Don't rise to that mate. His trolling was almost believable at the start of this but he's gone too far now and made it obvious.

A few falling for it, surprised he hasn't used the old "great score kick by the shooter" chestnut

 

[Orikoru]

OK..the whole thing is fixed. This is how it will be next two days to sort groups.

England win to top group but will end up playing Columbia who will beat us by bonkers VAR decision. Belgium will play Senegal (one African team being allowed though). Belgium to win no mither. Brazil to play Sweden. Brazil to win after a long hold out by the Swedes (maybe x-time). Germany to play Switzerland and win after being behind for most of the game. Probably 3-2.

Settle down, Mystic Meg.

 

[User62651]

OK..the whole thing is fixed. This is how it will be next two days to sort groups.

England win to top group but will end up playing Columbia who will beat us by bonkers VAR decision. Belgium will play Senegal (one African team being allowed though). Belgium to win no mither. Brazil to play Sweden. Brazil to win after a long hold out by the Swedes (maybe x-time). Germany to play Switzerland and win after being behind for most of the game. Probably 3-2.

Germany, Brazil and Belguim win shocker! It's a fix!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

hey you gave me pelters for moaning about Lawro!

No, I just asked if your opinion was based on who you support

 

[Beezerk]

So should England go for the potentially easier route with 2nd spot or try and win the group?
For me I think they should play it smart and go for the easier route, all I've heard on the radio from the ex pros is "keep on winning" etc, it just seems a bit of bravado and not very smart. Almost over confident if you will.

 

[Kellfire]

So should England go for the potentially easier route with 2nd spot or try and win the group?
For me I think they should play it smart and go for the easier route, all I've heard on the radio from the ex pros is "keep on winning" etc, it just seems a bit of bravado and not very smart. Almost over confident if you will.

Field a slightly weaker team with fresher players. They are less likely to win but will give it their all to prove their place.

If you win, you've got momentum, a happy squad and more players with game time.

If you lose/draw, you've still got the benefits of resting some whilst blooding others, with no negative fall out from the loss as the fans and media will give them more slack.

Win/win.

 

[Orikoru]

So should England go for the potentially easier route with 2nd spot or try and win the group?
For me I think they should play it smart and go for the easier route, all I've heard on the radio from the ex pros is "keep on winning" etc, it just seems a bit of bravado and not very smart. Almost over confident if you will.

I can see both sides of the argument, but one thing is for sure, you are never going to go out and actually try and lose a game. A lot of the ex-players who have been there state the importance of not losing momentum, and I think that's what an awful and flat defeat could do.

I largely agree with Kellfire above - rest some of the players who need a rest, safe in the knowledge that we have qualified for the next round anyway. Try and win the game, and whatever will be will be, take the next round as it comes. Trying to plan your route through is foolhardy when we can just as easily come unstuck to Colombia in the last 16 as to Brazil/Germany in the quarters.

P.S. not a single one of the top teams has looked remotely unbeatable or scary so far anyway.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

So should England go for the potentially easier route with 2nd spot or try and win the group?
For me I think they should play it smart and go for the easier route, all I've heard on the radio from the ex pros is "keep on winning" etc, it just seems a bit of bravado and not very smart. Almost over confident if you will.

Play your best 11 and keep the momentum going, regardless of who we play in the latter stages we should be doing our best, we’re not good enough to coast through and expect to beat certain teams in the knockout stages.

 

[Beezerk]

Play your best 11 and keep the momentum going, regardless of who we play in the latter stages we should be doing our best, we’re not good enough to coast through and expect to beat certain teams in the knockout stages.

Yeah I get that but who is going to remember a top quality group win at a World Cup? It's all about when you go home, if you can help with that slightly (and rest some players as Kellfire suggested) it's a better option for me.
I'm expecting some players rested tomorrow although Kane is a funny one with him being in the run for the golden boot.

 

[Piece]

Yeah I get that but who is going to remember a top quality group win at a World Cup? It's all about when you go home, if you can help with that slightly (and rest some players as Kellfire suggested) it's a better option for me.
I'm expecting some players rested tomorrow although Kane is a funny one with him being in the run for the golden boot.

I'd say they will start with 9/10 of the starting eleven, and then take key players off at HT or mid way through second half. Wholesale changes aren't right for me - momentum killer.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Don’t play anyone on a yellow card.

 

[Orikoru]

Yeah I get that but who is going to remember a top quality group win at a World Cup? It's all about when you go home, if you can help with that slightly (and rest some players as Kellfire suggested) it's a better option for me.
I'm expecting some players rested tomorrow although Kane is a funny one with him being in the run for the golden boot.

The logic is wrong though. There's a fair chance Colombia win tomorrow and top their group I would say, and then potentially Japan will come in 2nd. I would much, much rather play Japan personally, so in that respect finishing 1st in our group betters our chance of going one round further, with an easier last 16 tie.

Trying to fix it so we come 2nd implies that we can comfortably beat anyone from Group H, but that grossly underrates Colombia in my opinion.