World Cup 2018

[FairwayDodger]

Given the quality of the players for Argentina, how can they be this bad?

Is there still a Ronaldo or Messi debate?

 

[fundy]

Indeed, but his England record is up there with the best. Well, the best currently available. No Arsenal bias here, as I think he is a 3rd choice there by miles, but given his record for England, he is way ahead of Rashford and Vardy.

Kanes clearly top class (and not one of their own ), Vardy has recent form and does it against the top teams on a decent basis, the rest are a long long way back for me. Rashford may turn into a decent player, this prob Wellbecks last hurrah before he slides down the leagues. The real curates egg is Sterling. Im not his biggest fan but based on his City form England really do need to get more out of him if they intend to go deep in this tourney

get in Rebic

 

[fundy]

Given the quality of the players for Argentina, how can they be this bad?

bunch of individuals and the team less than the sum of the parts

 

[USER1999]

But not on recent form. Plenty of England managers in the past have been criticised for picking players based on reputation not on form but you seem to be advocating that by putting Welbeck above the other two.

I am no great Welbeck fan, far from it, but he is not getting a mention on here, whilst other players who also are a bit meh do. If Rashford was any good, he would be a guaranteed starter at Utd. He isnt.

Oh, and if they want 100m for Martial they are deluded.

 

[USER1999]

Is there still a Ronaldo or Messi debate?

No, its a Modric, Aguero, Higuain, debate.

 

[ColchesterFC]

I am no great Welbeck fan, far from it, but he is not getting a mention on here, whilst other players who also are a bit meh do. If Rashford was any good, he would be a guaranteed starter at Utd. He isnt.

Oh, and if they want 100m for Martial they are deluded.

Surely you can just replace Rashford with Welbeck and Utd with Arsenal in that statement? And even more so given that Utd are a better team than Arsenal.

 

[USER1999]

Surely you can just replace Rashford with Welbeck and Utd with Arsenal in that statement? And even more so given that Utd are a better team than Arsenal.

For sure. You can. If you want. But my point remains, only one of them has a boat load of goals for England. And its not like Welbz is ancient, past it, banjaxed. He is an option. With a proven record. Albeit for scoring scuffed goals.

 

[USER1999]

No, its a Modric, Aguero, Higuain, debate.

Sorry, on the beer, Modric is Croatian. Idiot.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Given the quality of the players for Argentina, how can they be this bad?

bunch of individuals and the team less than the sum of the parts

It's true, but still...........................how?

 

[ColchesterFC]

For sure. You can. If you want. But my point remains, only one of them has a boat load of goals for England. And its not like Welbz is ancient, past it, banjaxed. He is an option. With a proven record. Albeit for scoring scuffed goals.

Sorry, on the beer, Modric is Croatian. Idiot.

Think I might have found the reason for you suggesting Welbeck should be in the team ahead of the others mentioned. :whoo:

 

[srixon 1]

Get in

 

[Deleted member 16999]

:whoo: What a goal :whoo:

 

[Imurg]

No keeper concussion on that one

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Modric is a genuinely class player. Wonderful goal.

 

[Piece]

Argentina have no midfield, unlike Croatia....boom

 

[fundy]

utterly classy in defeat this Argy lot lol

 

[USER1999]

utterly classy in defeat this Argy lot lol

Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser!

 

[ColchesterFC]

utterly classy in defeat this Argy lot lol

They remind me a lot of Barcelona. It's all fine as long as things are going their way but once things aren't going their way they are a nasty bunch of (insert your own infractionable word here).

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It just keeps getting better :whoo:

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Oh dear, the Argies lost, isn’t life tragic 👍