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Pokerjoke, you've trolled me and Dan for our selections but we're yet to see your team of the tournament pal. Spill the beans and show us where we've gone wrong.
 

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Pokerjoke, you've trolled me and Dan for our selections but we're yet to see your team of the tournament pal. Spill the beans and show us where we've gone wrong.

Mate hardly trolled just questioning some of yours and Da
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Dan put out a team that hasn't scored enough goals to get out the group let alone win,although he has picked players that played well.
Not sure who put KDB in either as he was well below what we are used to,just going on what he has done this year was not the question.
Lloris was nowhere near as good as Pickford IMO I can think of 6 or 7 great saves as well as his penalty saves.
Just my thoughts that all.
 
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Some very strange choices - some seems to be going for the name - Rakatic has been very quiet this Comp , was very quiet last night and in most games -KDB has had one good game when he was playing in his normal position other that that very subdued. All the ex pros and pundits had Henderson in yet none on here - strange

And as for Lovren whilst the comments from him are silly he has played very well since VVD arrived and last night after his mental moments was very good again - certainly one of the better CB of the Comp
 
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We are celebrating improvement, hope, excitement, enjoyment. You lost the CL final but surely you enjoyed the journey to get there?

Different scenario, we played against some top top sides and produced great performances, Englands performances were average at best.

They struggled to win the 1st game then beat a team of no marks.

I won't count the belguim game as it was a dead rubber.

They just scrapped past Colombia, if Colombia had played football earlier in that game i think they would've won it.

Sweden were poor but England done the job, it wasnt pretty nor was it of a high standard perfornance wise.

For all of the ball england had against Croatia, they created very little. Croatia were much better than England for the 2nd half and whole of extra time.

If you're happy to accept mediocre football and performances as enjoyment,excitment and improvement then thats upto you, but i stand by my opinion.
 

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Casual racism at it's best. Sad and no surprise from you and unfortunately still tolerated by mods as humour.
It can’t be racism, the Scottish aren’t a race. National stereotyping maybe?
From me?? Implies I have previous, examples??
 

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Those picking the teams of the tournament... you do realise it’s just make believe??? Those teams won’t actually play together???
 

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Different scenario, we played against some top top sides and produced great performances, Englands performances were average at best.

They struggled to win the 1st game then beat a team of no marks.

I won't count the belguim game as it was a dead rubber.

They just scrapped past Colombia, if Colombia had played football earlier in that game i think they would've won it.

Sweden were poor but England done the job, it wasnt pretty nor was it of a high standard perfornance wise.

For all of the ball england had against Croatia, they created very little. Croatia were much better than England for the 2nd half and whole of extra time.

If you're happy to accept mediocre football and performances as enjoyment,excitment and improvement then thats upto you, but i stand by my opinion.
Usually we get terrible football and an early exit. This time we got ok football and got to the semi-finals. It's a big improvement and beyond what we expected. We are happy. What's so difficult to understand about that??
 

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Some very strange choices - some seems to be going for the name - Rakatic has been very quiet this Comp , was very quiet last night and in most games -KDB has had one good game when he was playing in his normal position other that that very subdued. All the ex pros and pundits had Henderson in yet none on here - strange

And as for Lovren whilst the comments from him are silly he has played very well since VVD arrived and last night after his mental moments was very good again - certainly one of the better CB of the Comp

Whilst I thought Henderson had a decent tournament by getting around the pitch and nullifying many attacks going forward he's woeful(and I use forward lightly).
Can anyone actually remember a defence splitting pass?
Last night I couldn't believe how many times we went back to the keeper from the half way line.
 
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Usually we get terrible football and an early exit. This time we got ok football and got to the semi-finals. It's a big improvement and beyond what we expected. We are happy. What's so difficult to understand about that??

I never said i didnt understand it.
 
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Whilst I thought Henderson had a decent tournament by getting around the pitch and nullifying many attacks going forward he's woeful(and I use forward lightly).
Can anyone actually remember a defence splitting pass?
Last night I couldn't believe how many times we went back to the keeper from the half way line.

There was at least 4 great passes made by Henderson last night, unfortunately it was only Sterling running on for them, lingard and Ali were stood holding each others hands.

Im not a fan of Hendersons at club level neither.
 

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There was at least 4 great passes made by Henderson last night, unfortunately it was only Sterling running on for them, lingard and Ali were stood holding each others hands.

Im not a fan of Hendersons at club level neither.

Yes Alli and Lingard both scored during the tournament.
As I said Stu he had a good tournament but for my money a midfielder needs goals and defence splitting passes.
Should never have been subbed
 

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Casual racism at it's best. Sad and no surprise from you and unfortunately still tolerated by mods as humour.

Hey , we can’t read every post, if you don’t like it, report it so we can deal with it.
There were unfortunate remarks on both sides last night, so let’s draw a line in the sand and stop. Besides I can’t be trawling through 40 plus pages to tidy it up 👍
 
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There was at least 4 great passes made by Henderson last night, unfortunately it was only Sterling running on for them, lingard and Ali were stood holding each others hands.

Im not a fan of Hendersons at club level neither.

It’s just generic rubbish when people suggest that Henderson only passes sideways and backwards - he is constantly looking forward and pinging balls all over the place , just look at the ball to Sterling against Sweden when he was through 1 on 1 - he was doing that all tournament - Henderson for me was clearly one of the best midfielders in the Comp - just did it all and most of the time with no support. Just superb and hopefully he keeps it going into the season
 
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Yes Alli and Lingard both scored during the tournament.
As I said Stu he had a good tournament but for my money a midfielder needs goals and defence splitting passes.
Should never have been subbed

Correct me if im wrong but Henderson's position was a DM role?? How many DM's have scored in this world cup?
 
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It’s just generic rubbish when people suggest that Henderson only passes sideways and backwards -
Yeah retaining possession!!
he is constantly looking forward and pinging balls all over the place , just look at the ball to Sterling against Sweden when he was through 1 on 1 - he was doing that all tournament -

Henderson for me was clearly one of the best midfielders in the Comp -
i can't agree with that but he certainly wasnt the worst england player
just did it all and most of the time with no support. Just superb and hopefully he keeps it going into the season

DM is a tough position to play, but last night he needed help from Ali and Lingard who were poor.
 

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Correct me if im wrong but Henderson's position was a DM role?? How many DM's have scored in this world cup?

Look at the majority of the teams of the comp, or of world cup history. How many of em had anyone resembling a dm? It's not fashionable ir exciting. Everyone goes all Keegan on em.

I think Henderson will rightly keep his place at the base of the midfield, its the others around him that have been poor. One goal each for lingaard and Delle doesn't mask the fact that overall both were disappointing, albeit imo playing too deep due to the formation.
 
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Look at the majority of the teams of the comp, or of world cup history. How many of em had anyone resembling a dm? It's not fashionable ir exciting. Everyone goes all Keegan on em.

I think Henderson will rightly keep his place at the base of the midfield, its the others around him that have been poor. One goal each for lingaard and Delle doesn't mask the fact that overall both were disappointing, albeit imo playing too deep due to the formation.

i dont think the formation was the issue, it was the players in those positons and the substitutions were always like for like.
 
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Phil thinks different?
He was pinging balls all over the place.
As I said he was great at breaking up moves but when we are playing from the half way line we need more IMO.

So he done his main job well....

That'll do for me.
 

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i dont think the formation was the issue, it was the players in those positons and the substitutions were always like for like.

I agree, we were hamstrung with a lack of options tbf, Lallana and Ox if fit would have given us a chance to change. Cheek did nowt in his to games to warrant a chance. I wouldn't have been aversre to seeing TAA having a run out in the middle as his energy alone may have galvanized the team.
 

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