I'm missing that one?
I'm missing that one?
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You’re correct, Rooney did flop at major tournaments as did the other 10 with him and why you’re missing the point!
England are doing well at this tournament and
people are unfairly criticising 1 player.
Although only an opinion, I feel the criticism of Sterling was valid in the first two games. He was awful. But in the last 2 games, apart from (horrendously) missing golden scoring opportunities, he's been very good. And the last 2 games have been against decent opposition.
Southgate was obviously seeing things in training that Sterling wasn't taking to the matches. Good on Southgate for sticking with him, and good on Sterling for turning it around.
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I guess my point didnt come across the way i was trying to make it
During the early group stages the performances of the team were a little bit scratchy even with the wins and after they played against Belgium it looked to me like Rose could be one that could a player to give a little bit of a balance - i dont think Young has played badly just think he narrows the field a little BUT as with Lingard over the past two KO games whilst neither have shone they seemed to have done some very vital work and maybe unseen by supporting Henderson - Young dropping inside and Lingard dropping a touch deeper to support Henderson and give him support in numbers and strength , with the width coming from Sterling
So overall i think since the group stage Southgate has got the balance right in regards the formation ( something i also dont think gets the best out of them ) to get the results even if its not using the players to their best ability. Every player you can see is working so hard , such a togetherness that hasnt been seen since 96 and a team that people actually like and even the non England fans get behind them and want them to do well .
So it seems a bit sad and awful IMO when certain people continue with a tirade against one player which goes against the whole ethos the England have grown of being together - you can see how hard Sterling is working and his runs are world class and he is desperate to do well and score but whilst he isnt scoring his playing his part very well and has actually played very well over the last couple of games but people wont or cant see past him not scoring , if there was someone who has lit up the prem all season long itching to come on then maybe they would but there isnt and i dont see Rashford or Vardy doing the same runs Sterling is and its all a bit sad when England get to a stage they havent done for a long time and the team is playing wall as a team and people want a change to be made - they made changes against Belgium and it resulted in a defeat.
There is no problems with people questioning managers and players but to do it when the country is celebrating getting so far and for it to be the same player just seems to smack of vindictiveness and when it seems its clear that Southgate is fully appreciative of what Sterling is bringing to the table - even more so when it a suggestion that the country believes Southgate is wrong because the fans are saying it. The scapegoat has been well and truely formed no matter happens now Sterling will be the victim and if England win it will be suggested it will be in spite of him - quite sad really when people suggest everyone should get behind the team
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Phil. People are behind the team but there is massive frustration at his ability to finish any move off. He is, as you say, making good runs and getting into decent positions but he has wasted every single one of his scoring opportunities. At this level that is just not good enough and it could cost England a game. It’s like a golfer who is awesome tee to green but never makes a birdie. I hope he scores a hat trick in each of the next two games because it means England win the World Cup but it’s looking very very unlikely (him scoring that is)
Old Skier
Tour Winner
LP, were is this tirade against Sterling on this forum? There are a few opinions that suggest that perhaps there are better options available in the Squad.
Im old enough to remember the Jimmy Greaves who har in 1966 and that was certainly a major talking point.
They are just opinions and it's good to see you have now changed your mind and show an interest in the England team.
Im old enough to remember the Jimmy Greaves who har in 1966 and that was certainly a major talking point.
They are just opinions and it's good to see you have now changed your mind and show an interest in the England team.
clubchamp98
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agree with this.
Sterling is trying hard and doing well in the game but if he is to play “second striker “ and get ahead of Kane he MUST finish off the moves.
Alli never played that well yesterday but the chance he got he scored very similar to the one Sterling missed that Stones put away in the group match.
I wasnt a fan of Sterling when he played for Liverpool so nothing new.
His finishing is not going to improve overnight , I hope he proves me wrong but can’t see it.
I hope he scores two hatricks in the next two but can’t see it.
Think he’s a marmite player you either like him or you don’t it’s split but as some have said is there a real in form replacement as others have played and not stepped up so while we’re winning play the same team.
We have a fabulous chance here I just hope the boys can take it would be great for all the young players around the country to see an England team win the World Cup.
bring it home boys.
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Are you saying you were cant see the constant critisim from certain areas regardless of how he plays ?
Many people all over social media were saying that Sterling has played well over the past couple of games , including ex players and pundits alike
Yet on here the same people continue with the same line against him - it happened before he even kicked a ball before the friendlies before the world cup and it hasnt changed , one poster even suggested that the overwhelming thinking was Rashford for Sterling - started a poll and hey presto its not
and here is a selection from another poster who goes at Sterling every game regardless of how he has played , some of the posts even before half time or even after ten mins of the game
You having a laugh 😂
If anyone can argue he should have a starting place after that performance is a joke.
Shambles of a player, double rammel fits nicely as well
Absolutely, where is Southgate with his massive shepherds crook? What a waste of a place in the team
I think it’s already been widely accepted that England’s defence is average at best, Sterling though is being carried in this current team imo. He makes a few decent tippety tappety passes but apart.
Mate, Sterling could score a hat trick and I still wouldn’t rate him
He’s absolutely rammel, gets in the way of other players at times and offers very little in the way of intelligent football.
Even seen on social media people wanting him injured so he cant play - its pathetic
Maybe its the faceless social media way these days say you support yet mouth off against the players you claim to support.
Southgate has instilled a one team attitude - shame about some in the fan base.
Beezerk
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I'd just like to say, when Yorkshire play well, England play well :whoo:
Pin-seeker
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It’s the Barnsley influence ðŸ˜
Ha ha.
Blind obedience is apparently what is required. We are now entering a cult, not following football.
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No one is asking for blind obedience, just not to pre-judge and be honest with assessments.
Who was to blame when Kane was taking corners in the Euro’s?
Who are we blaming now Sterling isn’t scoring in the WC?
Can anyone whose against Sterling being in the starting 11 give any serious reasons why Southgate is persisting with him?
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Priceless...….England reach a world cup semi final for the first time in a generation and what do the 'fans' do ?
Argue within themselves as to who is the worst English player and trash an Ikea store.
Argue within themselves as to who is the worst English player and trash an Ikea store.
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That is some not "the" fans.
Sadly there are idiots everywhere. My home city had, in the past, trouble with fighting and pubs being smashed by SOME fans of both Celtic and Rangers (and these were for friendly games!)
I didn't suggest that it had been ALL Auld Firm supporters.
ColchesterFC
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According to the SNP and some Scots a "generation" is only 4 years, as in "once in a generation opportunity" for Independence. I don't remember England getting to the World Cup semifinal in Brazil 2014. :thup:
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Those folk that trashed cars and shops need to be prosecuted. Complete morons
Liverbirdie
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Bale wasnt picked as regularly last season, but came on in the last game of the season and scored 2 goals. Sometimes its just about getting the decision right for that one game. I still think Sterling may get an important moment or goal in this tournament.
MegaSteve
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And, those from north of the wall are as pure as driven snow?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lon...-world-cup-qualifier-at-wembley-a3393861.html
Okay, I get that. Sterling isn't Bale though and some of the reasons Bale wasn't getting picked was down to personality or incompatibility with CR. When he played he made an impact, big impact.
I hope Sterling does add goals to his performances, a decisive pass or cross wouldn't go amiss either😁. The questioning of him by me and others has nothing to do with a lack of effort or him hiding. He is giving it everything and that is all you can ask of a player. The rest is then all about opinion.
We are not pre judging, we are basing opinion on his performances in this tournament and recent England games.
Kane and corners, must have been down to the manager and coaching staff. Has there ever been a more bizarre decision? Did the manager see something in training there? Just odd.
I believe the stat for Sterling is something like 2 goals in 42-44. Something like that. It's not new for him in an England shirt. I go back to a previous point, do England need him to score, to set up chances or is his role to pull defenders and create holes? If the latter then all is well. If either of the first two then he is not doing his job.
Last answer, Southgate has a system that he likes, whether down to the players he has or not I don't know but that doesn't matter. The system is effective and Sterling, Lindgard and Alli are important to this. If lallana had been fit then he could have fitted in instead of Sterling as he plays that same type of role. The others in the squad don't quite suit it as well. They bring other attributes, I'm a big fan of RLC for example but he is a different player and now is not the time to experiment. Sterling is fulfilling his role and the excellence of our set pieces mean that his poor finishing and lack of product is something that can be carried so far. I've said it previously, a few pages ago, I would start with Sterling on Wednesday, no way would Southgate change anything now anyway, but if he played as he had done I'd be hooking him early second half either for Rashford or RLC, no question.
