What's going to get us to leave the car.

[Bunkermagnet]

An alarm system that charges them £20 hour for any time over full charge .
Can’t be that hard.

You'd think so, but they havent and people would complain they are being penalised.....

 

[bobmac]

Was thinking more in world terms for coal / oil fired power stations.
Most people won’t charge in Asda couple of miles from home.

They will if they can't charge at home.

They will be the stop off points for long journeys , motorway services for a start.
That’s what is putting me off ,real people stories of trying to find them on long journeys.

And you'd be right to be put off at the moment.
But then if you do lots of long journeys, then you wait a few years until the number of chargers increases and the range of the cars gets to 300-400 miles.

Electric cars are still in their infancy but are already up to 250 mile range.

 

[clubchamp98]

They will if they can't charge at home.



And you'd be right to be put off at the moment.
But then if you do lots of long journeys, then you wait a few years until the number of chargers increases and the range of the cars gets to 300-400 miles.

Electric cars are still in their infancy but are already up to 250 mile range.

I don’t do a lot of long journeys .
Scotland once a month.
I like the look of the EV golf had a test drive it’s lovely.
I might just do it at the end of the year.
If I wait to long I may never do it.
But the price is a big barrier atm.

 

[MegaSteve]

The problems are just not with our overuse of fossil fuels... But also with our consumption of other resources and how we set them aside when we've finished with them... Leaving ticking timebombs for future generations...

 

[Deleted member 21784]

In the future the humble lampost will have a charge station built in to provide on street charging

There is talk of motorways becoming one big wireless charging system so you charge whilst driving but that's decades away no doubt .. can't even get it decent on your phone atm

 

[ScienceBoy]

Well I tried cycling the 12k to work yesterday to avoid the Cambridge protests. Pretty much all of it was cycle lanes next to busy roads.

I am doing it again Wednesday so will take what I have learnt.

Main two takeaways are:

I found other cyclists harder to navigate around than cars but I get my people want to preserve momentum when cycling. Two cyclists cut me off or almost hit me but had no issues with cars. I have to admit some of the issues I faced is down to my inexperience cycling so I guess it can only get better. No one complained outwardly so I can’t have been that bad.

Navigating is hard, I know the way but there are so many options when on a bike it will take me time to find my favourite route. I missed a few shortcuts I intended to take but will learn how it all connects up in time.

So I hope to cycle at least once a month, maybe twice if the weather is good.

Overall it was better than a driving commute but won’t be an option unless the weather is good, not going to cycle in the rain!

 

[bobmac]

But the price is a big barrier atm.

One of the reasons for this is.......
If you have a choice between an Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) car or an electric car and they were the same price, which would you choose?
Most would pick the electric, unless you were doing many thousands of miles per year.
In which case the dealership would never sell any ICE cars so they have to be cheaper.
Once they stop making ICE cars, then the price of the electric cars will come down.

In the future, something like a 5 year old Kia Niro will be good value

 

[ScienceBoy]

So I’m sold on the bike commute, need to keep testing it once the schools go back but was pretty favourable vs the car. I can see it being a 1-3 day a week activity, less of the weather is bad.

Off to investigate cycle to work schemes and price up a decent road/hybrid eBike.

 

[USER1999]

I used to cycle to work twice a week, but given pretty much every car driver round here tries to kill you, I got fed up with too many near misses.

There is also a heck of a lot of broken glass, so frequent punctures were an issue, making me late.

For me to cycle, they need to seperate out traffic, and sweep the cycle lanes. Neither is going to happen any time soon.

 

[clubchamp98]

I used to cycle to work twice a week, but given pretty much every car driver round here tries to kill you, I got fed up with too many near misses.

There is also a heck of a lot of broken glass, so frequent punctures were an issue, making me late.

For me to cycle, they need to seperate out traffic, and sweep the cycle lanes. Neither is going to happen any time soon.

Kevlar tyres and some slime in the tubes should sort the puncture prob.
Can’t do much about drivers sadly.

 

[USER1999]

I was running schwalbe marathons, which are pretty heavy duty anyway. The trouble with heavy tyres, and slime is it just makes the bike so heavy and unresponsive.

 

[clubchamp98]

I was running schwalbe marathons, which are pretty heavy duty anyway. The trouble with heavy tyres, and slime is it just makes the bike so heavy and unresponsive.

Your only going to work , not the Tour de France.
I know what you are saying it does add weight but there is nothing worse than a puncture going to work.
I had a bike for work and one for proper riding.
But you need the space.

 

[USER1999]

Sure, but 14 miles each way, including a pretty decent hill means making it harder is no fun, and reducing the acceleration makes negotiating traffic and rounabouts more interesting.

 

[clubchamp98]

Sure, but 14 miles each way, including a pretty decent hill means making it harder is no fun, and reducing the acceleration makes negotiating traffic and rounabouts more interesting.

Oh yes that’s a decent mileage.
Sounds like you need an electric one.
Was cruising the other day at 18mph ,an electric bike went past like I was in treacle.
If I was still working I would get one tomorrow.