What's going to get us to leave the car.
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Russ_D
Club Champion
Too small. And dubious battery life with it being used. How many times will that have been charged and topped up in those 44k miles?
Self charging hybrids are a much more attractive option for me.
Russ_D
Club Champion
Was on the first series with Paddy, Freddie and Chris. Chances are it may have been grey import. Just remeber it being hideous. They were shocked that the battery would degrade that much over 10 years but like any rechargable battery the more you charge the less they hold charge.
bobmac
Major Champion
I know it's too small for you but I was just pointing out for anyone else interested the price is nearer £9,000 than £15,000
And the battery comes with an 8 year (100,000 mile) warranty
Wolf
Well-known member
Did you manage to watch that whole video, god he was boring and terrible to watch, he didn't really get the point across very well either.
Would be better explaining how you avoid buying one with poor battery chemistry rather than justifying how long it takes to have a wee and walk to a service station from your car. How to look for a good used one etc
Still so much more to do with EV for family sized cars with decent range and variety that's not a van before I'd consider one not to mention the total disparity in costs. They're not going to comedown in price new as much as people think.
I'll stick with looking for hydrid options for now
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Battery's get a health check on the service anyways , so you know if it's rubbish or not
bobmac
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Wasn't he just.
But then I remember, he's a car salesman, not a tv presenter so I let him off a bit.
Typical Top Gear though, find the worst/oldest car and make it look as if all electric cars are the same.
As for cost, the fist Leaf started at £28,350 10 years ago
The newest starts at 26,345 and is a lot better car
The hybrid does make a lot of sense and will work well until the newer EVs come down in price
Wolf
Well-known member
I take any top gear car review with a pinch of salt, they tend to only really talk up the cars most people can't afford and pick holes in things the average motorist needs.
No doubt the new leaf is a better car and price has come down but to many that may still be to much. I think that's a decent price for a very good good car. Problem I have is doesn't have enough seats. The larger options are still basically non existent unless you have mega money
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This is what the world is up against though ...people just either stuck in their ways or won't open their mind / listen
I had a long chat with my mate last night after i said I was getting a leaf next
But what if you need to go further .. I have my other car for that .. we have 2 cars in the family so long trips just petrol .. work electric
Well if you want to do your bit why not just train
. Well takes 2 hours a day longer so this ways a lot more effective
The battery wears down over the years .. it's a 2 year lease
They have no power behind them... 150bhp and 0-60 in 8 seconds
Well I don't see why you want to limit your driving distance .... Again I have another car it's just for work and around town
This went on for half an hour
Finished with well unless China and USA change there is no point
I don't care what they do it's what I wanna do.. if we all think like this surely nothing will ever change
They do that generally, it is usually done in extremes to make a daft point. It is a shame as it does have some influence but we have to remember it is entertainment, not factual.
ScienceBoy
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For the number of long journeys a year I make I think renting a petrol car would be feesable. I do about 8500 a year and 1500 of that are 3 or 4 holiday car trips, the remaining 7000 is short commutes of 20 miles a day. (which I am thinking of switching some to cycling in the summer).
williamalex1
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We had battery powered milk floats in the 40/50s, before modern technology 
Swinglowandslow
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I am all for electric cars and they will be the future. However, until the battery technology is good enough to permit the battery recharging to be done by, if necessary, carrying the battery indoors, it won't become the main fuel.
Look around you. How many live in flats, terraced houses, etc.
No way can they charge overnight, or even for 2 hours or so.
But, the technology is coming.( it might be already known to be possible)
And don't be surprised if the Government make further announcement about the date on which new cars must be all electric
Look around you. How many live in flats, terraced houses, etc.
No way can they charge overnight, or even for 2 hours or so.
But, the technology is coming.( it might be already known to be possible)
And don't be surprised if the Government make further announcement about the date on which new cars must be all electric
bobmac
Major Champion
Ev ownership will increase gradually as will the charging infrastructure so those who cant charge at home will charge at work, supermarkets, restaurants, multi-storey car parks, cinemas, golf clubs, pubs, swimming pools, high street, etc etc etc.
Right now there are over 30,500 charging points in Britain and growing every day, just like petrol stations grew when the first cars came out.
The difference is businesses dont need to build petrol stations in their car parks.
So you go shopping to Asda, park up, spend 30mins shopping, then drive to the garage, fill up 200 miles worth of petrol/diesel cost £25-£30, then drive home.
OR
You go shopping to Asda, park up, PLUG IN, spend 30mins shopping, meanwhile your car downloads 200 miles of range cost £6-£8 then you drive home.
Which is quicker, cleaner and cheaper?
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
That sounds like very good economics.
But in the future the tax on the petrol will be transferred to the electricity and it will cost what it costs now plus tax.
If not where is the government going to get the finances to run the infrastructure?
bobmac
Major Champion
I'm sure there are clever people working on this right now.
It may mean we pay so much per mile, happy days, that's the way it should be.
And the govt. will save a fortune in subsidies it currently pays out when the oil, coal and gas power stations are shut down.
''Renewable energy sources provided more electricity to UK homes and businesses than fossil fuels for the first time over the last quarter, according to new research.
The renewables record was set in the third quarter of this year (2019) after its share of the electricity mix rose to 40%.
It is the first time that electricity from British windfarms, solar panels and renewable biomass plants has surpassed fossil fuels since the UK’s first power plant fired up in 1882.''
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...y-overtakes-fossil-fuels-in-uk-for-first-time
And in answer to your next question, no, we wont need to build new power stations and we can stop buying millions of barrels of oil.
That will save a few quid
The picture you show is great, is that somewhere like The Netherlands? One of the issues right now is that view does not exist here nor do I see any sign of it happening. Supermarkets, shopping centres etc currently have 2-3 charging points and they are not rushing to fit another 50. Why would they unless they are given hefty grants to do so. We need the DoT to really step in and roll sights like that across the country, if they are serious about electric cars.
USER1999
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A hotel I was at in Sweden had a car park exactly like the picture.
bobmac
Major Champion
I agree.
''I'm not forking out for 50 charging points, no-one uses them''
''I'm not buying an electric car, there's nowhere to charge them''
bobmac
Major Champion
And if you go to Oslo airport, every parking space has access to a charger
