Were Royal Troon correct or not?

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I read in the paper a couple of weeks back that Royal Troon refused to allow a gentleman onto their golf course because he turned up to play in his kilt. He wore kilt with knee length kilt socks, and golf shoes with golfing attire on his upper body.

Royal Troon refused to allow him to play stating that a kilt was classed as shorts as you could see his knees. They ordered him a change or he was losing his £280 green fee which they also refused to refund.

They did however order him a taxi so he could quickly rush back to his hotel to change!!!

Personally I think this attitude is deplorable and potentially discriminatory. Surely to God this is the attitude of the last century golfer and has no place in 2010?????
 
I saw a picture of the chap in the kilt and his whole outfit was rather garish really. That said, the publicity that this has generated certainly hasn't put Royal Troon in a good light. Considering the chap played several other courses in his kilt without any issue, this was a bit OTT.

As to Murphs comment, do the ladies not just get to play on th Portland course and not the Championship course ?

Don't reeally know or care as it's not a place I'm likely to stump up a greenfee of that size ;)
 
Here's the article and it looks like ladies are permitted to play and in shorts no less!

Teed off by Royal Troon kilt ban

Published Date: 05 September 2010
By Alastair Dalton
Ladies are permitted to wear tailored shorts."

Foster said he was given short shrift by club officials: "The caddiemaster was less than cordial when I attempted to lodge my complaint with him, saying that men were not allowed to show bare leg on tADVERTISEMENT

he course, period.

"I am most distressed the club did not make it clear a kilt was not considered proper golf attire prior to my arrival."

Foster said some of the other courses he had played, including Carnoustie and Kingsbarns, had welcomed him playing in a kilt.

He said: "They thought it more than appropriate, seeing as Scotland is the birthplace of the game of golf and the home of its original set of rules governing play." An official at Muirfield Golf Club in East Lothian "was as pleased as punch to see me kilted and coming in to play Muirfield in a traditional kilt", he added.

Colin Farquharson, editor of the online magazine Scottish Golf View, said: "It sounds ridiculous. Royal Troon has been stuffy back to the days when Colin Montgomerie's father was secretary.


"As long as kilted golfers wear pants underneath I cannot see any problem."

Ayrshire Golf Association president Alasdair Malcolm defended Royal Troon's stance but said most major clubs now permitted players to wear "tailored" shorts.

He said: "As with any club, people need to be aware of its rules regarding dress."

However, Royal Troon's secretary claimed its dress rules were the norm. David Brown said: "In keeping with many organisations in golf, including most amateur and professional organisations who stage major championships around the world, long trousers are the accepted form of dress on the golf course. Royal Troon adopts a similar approach.

"We greatly respect, however, the traditional dress of Scotland and welcome full ceremonial kilt attire being worn within the clubhouse."

He told Foster: "I regret that you felt aggrieved by being asked to change from your kilt into trousers to play golf. Royal Troon wants guests to have an enjoyable experience when they visit us and indeed we have a large volume of correspondence thanking us for our hospitality."
 
I guess if the ladies are allowed to wear skirts, then the blokes should be too. That said, it is not unusual for dress codes to be different across the sexes. Our ladies are allowed collarless shirts, and sleeveless too. Try turning up as a bloke in a wife beater, and you will get thrown out.
 
Colin Farquharson, editor of the online magazine Scottish Golf View, said: "It sounds ridiculous. Royal Troon has been stuffy back to the days when Colin Montgomerie's father was secretary.
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Coming from one of the most stuffy blokes I have ever met, a bit rich there Mr Farquharson :o
 
I've seen people play the old and new course at st. Andrews in jeans :eek:, that's bad.

incidentally, on both occasions the golfer was American
 
I'm playing (hopefully) St Andrews at the end of the month, think I'll wear my kilt!
 
I see two people voted yes, would they care to comment?
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I voted yes. I don't think it is proper golfing attire.

I am sure that I would get the same reception at most clubs if I turned up in an English themed fancy dress outfit too.

It is the equivalent of turning up to play golf dressed as a morris dancer in my view. Shouldn't be allowed. Well done Troon!

:D :D :D
 
Stuffy old fashioned attitude IMO.

Some of these golf club officials need to wind their necks in and finally admit we are now in the 21st century.

Was the gentleman concerned Scottish? I assume he was, could well have been distressed if he was a regular skirt wearer.

On the other hand, I suppose the rules are the rules. It's one thing saying "It doesn't specify you cannot wear a kilt" It also doesn't specify you cannot wear a full Mr Blobby outfit either, but you wouldn't roll up for a round wearing one expecting to play!

Suppose it pays to check before you turn up.
 
But when all is said and done....

would you have wanted to be opposite him when he squatted down to line up a putt???

Cripes. That would put me off my grub in the clubhouse afterwards
 
I see two people voted yes, would they care to comment?
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I voted yes. I don't think it is proper golfing attire.

I am sure that I would get the same reception at most clubs if I turned up in an English themed fancy dress outfit too.

It is the equivalent of turning up to play golf dressed as a morris dancer in my view. Shouldn't be allowed. Well done Troon!

:D :D :D
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I get what you are saying to some extent but I dont think a kilt is "fancy dress"

I think it is smart and I think thats what the rules are there for. having said that a line has to be drawn.

sad and stuffy imo but I think the wind of change is coming little by little.

For me I love to see people join our game and I think its a shame that people can be put off by the old school ideas.
 
If the rules state that he couldn't show off his knobbly knees then their actions are entirely fair.
If the rules aren't clear that's another matter.
 
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