Wentworth going even more "upscale"

Proper flounce

Just to clear up a few things

The PGA I was referring to in the original post was the champs - a number of posters seemed to understand that

Hence why people suggested that it might move around etc

Then someone questioned about the Head of ET being there and I suggested it might go to the Belfy

And that's when MM arrived and then it took a sour turn based on someone being extremely pedantic about an acronym - when the reference was pretty clear

MM could have easily approached the question in regards the PGA and clarified what I was meaning in a more "friendly" manner maybe and then there would have been no need for what happened after that
 
Is it this time of year already? Seems earlier than usual, we haven't played the last qualifier yet at my club :confused:.

I personally thought it was obvious that Phil was talking about the competition not the organization, but I also don't think it's worth arguing about. Seriously, does it matter?
 
Oxfordcomma said:
Is it this time of year already? Seems earlier than usual, we haven't played the last qualifier yet at my club :confused:.

I personally thought it was obvious that Phil was talking about the competition not the organization, but I also don't think it's worth arguing about. Seriously, does it matter?
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In a world of social media, strong opinions and having the last word, it all matters.;)
 
Back to the OP,
For those that have actually played Wentworth, is it worth the money - from what I have heard I understand not.

Perhaps the new owners will plough all the monies into improvements?
 
JamesR said:
Back to the OP,
For those that have actually played Wentworth, is it worth the money - from what I have heard I understand not.

Perhaps the new owners will plough all the monies into improvements?
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I don't think it's worth the green fee

Think there a lot better courses for less money around london and further out.
 
I never quite understand Wentworth. It gets a decent placing on the Top 100 lists, but no one you speak to who's played the West course rates it. Certainly not since Ernie's changes!
 
How much of the appeal and lure of Wentworth is down to how famous it is though? would the new owner have even heard of the course had it not been home to the European Tour and the PGA Championship? Get rid of those and where is the kudos of being a member? (Which is surely what it will be for the fattest of cats. Surely they don't intend on actually playing golf?!)
 
Not really a members club is it, more of a posh Muni.
It has always had some 'interesting' members.

Looks like Trump will be doing the same to Turnberry. I bet the fact that he has to keep the club on board to organise the Open sticks in his craw.
 
JamesR said:
but no one you speak to who's played the West course rates it. Certainly not since Ernie's changes!
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Disagree with this comment,

Its a great golf course and the changes made were required to keep the course relevant. The greens are sub-par granted and its never worth £360 (£60 for the required caddy) but as a golf course, its a proper challenge.
i think people who 'slate' it are often the same ones who knock the modern course (heaven forbid a great golf course not be a link or heathland).

I would also say, that is a better golfers course, you have to hit it long and straight. so, your average Joe might find it too tough to really enjoy.

Are there other courses i'd rather play every day for the rest of my life? yes 100%. (Ganton, Alwoodley, Woodhall Spa, Saunton (East) and Notts of the courses i've played are definitely better).

however, it doesnt deserve the criticism it gets by so many people (especially on here)
 
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Duckster said:
Not content on being one of the priciest (note, I said one of) clubs in England, it appears that they are now going to usurp the "ordinary golfer" from Wentworth's membership.

Is there such a thing at Wentworth?

On the flip side, I do actually feel sorry for the current membership, especially those who have been there for years. Get the feeling that Sunningdale's waiting list is about to get a lot longer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...Surrey-club-by-Chinese-billionaire-owner.html
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I wonder how many Russian and Chinese billionaires there are who will want to play golf at Wentworth, at least on a regular basis? A golf club without regular golfing members is not a golf club in my opinion! :rolleyes:
 
MendieGK said:
Disagree with this comment,

Its a great golf course and the changes made were required to keep the course relevant. The greens are sub-par granted and its never worth £360 (£60 for the required caddy) but as a golf course, its a proper challenge.
i think people who 'slate' it are often the same ones who knock the modern course (heaven forbid a great golf course not be a link or heathland).

I would also say, that is a better golfers course, you have to hit it long and straight. so, your average Joe might find it too tough to really enjoy.

Are there other courses i'd rather play every day for the rest of my life? yes 100%. (Ganton, Alwoodley, Woodhall Spa, Saunton (East) and Notts of the courses i've played are definitely better).

however, it doesnt deserve the criticism it gets by so many people (especially on here)
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None of those I've spoken to (not from this forum) particularly liked it - but you may well be correct in that none were really all that good, or long hitters.
 
MendieGK said:
Disagree with this comment,

Its a great golf course and the changes made were required to keep the course relevant. The greens are sub-par granted and its never worth £360 (£60 for the required caddy) but as a golf course, its a proper challenge.
i think people who 'slate' it are often the same ones who knock the modern course (heaven forbid a great golf course not be a link or heathland).

I would also say, that is a better golfers course, you have to hit it long and straight. so, your average Joe might find it too tough to really enjoy.

Are there other courses i'd rather play every day for the rest of my life? yes 100%. (Ganton, Alwoodley, Woodhall Spa, Saunton (East) and Notts of the courses i've played are definitely better).

however, it doesnt deserve the criticism it gets by so many people (especially on here)
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I would compare it to other parkland modern courses within half hour of it - Woburn , Bearwood , Grove and Centurion

The Grove for me is the only one below Wentworth - the rest IMO are all better than Wentworth
 
MendieGK said:
Disagree with this comment,

Its a great golf course and the changes made were required to keep the course relevant. The greens are sub-par granted and its never worth £360 (£60 for the required caddy) but as a golf course, its a proper challenge.
i think people who 'slate' it are often the same ones who knock the modern course (heaven forbid a great golf course not be a link or heathland).

I would also say, that is a better golfers course, you have to hit it long and straight. so, your average Joe might find it too tough to really enjoy.

Are there other courses i'd rather play every day for the rest of my life? yes 100%. (Ganton, Alwoodley, Woodhall Spa, Saunton (East) and Notts of the courses i've played are definitely better).

however, it doesnt deserve the criticism it gets by so many people (especially on here)
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JamesR said:
None of those I've spoken to (not from this forum) particularly liked it - but you may well be correct in that none were really all that good, or long hitters.
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Wentworth is rated so highly because of the way the rankings are done. The actual course itself only accounts for 35% of the marks, the remainder is down to conditioning, facilities etc. I'm not particularly impressed with the course, it has been turned into another 'American' style course and lost a lot of it's original heathland feel. The West course isn't even the best course at Wentworth imo.

Back to the OP, it is a real shame for the genuine golfing members. As stated, many of them are ordinary people who sacrifice a lot of their income for the privilige of playing there and are probably not well connected enough to get into the top neighbouring clubs instead.
 
I find it disgusting that someone can buy an established course where long standing members play and wish to make such changes.

I trust, with all their money, that the new owners will refund joining fees already paid to those who can't afford to re-join.
I certainly would not stay on, even if I could afford it.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
The Grove for me is the only one below Wentworth
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Blundell has asked me to punch you very hard on the nose on Wednesday for that comment................;) :D :D

To be honest, my view is 'so what?' If the new owner wants to go down this route then fine - it's his club after all. I would imagine though that an £80,000 debenture giving access to 3 top-class golf courses and other leisure facilities that you would expect from an exclusive private members club would very much appeal to those who can afford it.

And £80k also money well spent if you ask me if it meant you didn't have to put up with Forsyth and Tarbuck as members any longer!!!

If the PGA (Championship ;) ) moved around some of the great UK courses then that's a plus in my book. And as for the European Tour offices, given how few events are actually held in the UK then makes sense to move it abroad.

Anyway have just checked my lottery numbers and it looks like I can now afford the new membership so am filling in my application form now. Don't expect to be offering any of you riff-raff an invite any time soon!
 
PieMan said:
Anyway have just checked my lottery numbers and it looks like I can now afford the new membership so am filling in my application form now. Don't expect to be offering any of you riff-raff an invite any time soon!
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How are you raising the other £79,990 Paul? :D
 
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