Turn dont sway

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Having hit the buffer in the last couple of medals I have only had that one swing thought during the round. What a difference it makes. I feel more in control of my swing than ever before.

It maybe common sense to many on here but it might be worth trying your next round if your struggling. Am off 18 just now and hope to knock 4 of that this year.

Looking forward to playing on Sunday again to make sure it wasn't two lucky rounds!
 
Having hit the buffer in the last couple of medals I have only had that one swing thought during the round. What a difference it makes. I feel more in control of my swing than ever before.

It maybe common sense to many on here but it might be worth trying your next round if your struggling. Am off 18 just now and hope to knock 4 of that this year.

Looking forward to playing on Sunday again to make sure it wasn't two lucky rounds!
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Great when you get one of those eureka moments, makes all the hard work worth while.

Mine was starting the downswing with my lower half and just letting everything catch up. handicap plummeted that season
 
How far you turning your hips on the take away?
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Not as much as I should or as much as the young whipper snappers on the tour. Probally starting at 12 o clock only getting as far as 1 or 2. Not much at all.

How far should I be aiming for?
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Thats what I want to know :D
 
Ha don't I know this now! Last night (can only blame fatigue or tiredness or something like that).

My hips were turning 90 and hands drawn right in on the inside. Not my normal swing!

I need to do some exercises to strengthen my hips to provide resistance. Last night they just came along for the ride!

Result, shanks so bad they went 20 yards forwards and 100 yards right, fully across all the bays of the range... no idea what they all must have thought about it!
 
I thought you wanted as much separation between shoulders and hips as possible, so wouldn't you want to turn your hips only as far as they need to go (dependant on flexibility) so that your shoulders turn 90 degrees?
 
45°
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So am I right in thinking between one and two is about right or 13:30 o'clock
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I tend to go deep with my hips to about 60°, put a clubshaft across your hips and turn is the best measure.




I thought you wanted as much separation between shoulders and hips as possible, so wouldn't you want to turn your hips only as far as they need to go (dependant on flexibility) so that your shoulders turn 90 degrees?
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... how far CAN your shoulders turn if your hips don't?

Try this... put a stick/clubshaft/v-easy/piece of old bamboo left to right through your front two belt loops so that it's parallel to the target line.... and WITHOUT the stick moving try turning your shoulders (the stick must remain parallel at all times, not a fraction of movement).... how far can you go?
 
45°
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So am I right in thinking between one and two is about right or 13:30 o'clock
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Th turn is an epiphany I had over the winter too. Starting the take away by turning the shoulders, not taking the arms back, it's made a massive difference to my swing as my weight shifts right as a result of the turn. Previously, I'd try and move the weight right, which would result in a sway.

As far as the turn goes, if you're shoulders are facing 12 o/c to start, and you can turn your shoulders so that they are facing 3 o/c, i.e. back to the target, it allows a better angle for your habds to clear the body when swinging down, helps prevent an out to in swing path.

I'm now concentrating on keeping the hands in front of the club head at impact.....
 
I thought you wanted as much separation between shoulders and hips as possible, so wouldn't you want to turn your hips only as far as they need to go (dependant on flexibility) so that your shoulders turn 90 degrees?
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... how far CAN your shoulders turn if your hips don't?

Try this... put a stick/clubshaft/v-easy/piece of old bamboo left to right through your front two belt loops so that it's parallel to the target line.... and WITHOUT the stick moving try turning your shoulders (the stick must remain parallel at all times, not a fraction of movement).... how far can you go?
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What I meant was, turn your hips as far as they need to go to get your shoulders at right angles to where they started.
The more flexible you are, the less you'll need to turn your hips and vice versa.
 
What I meant was, turn your hips as far as they need to go to get your shoulders at right angles to where they started.
The more flexible you are, the less you'll need to turn your hips and vice versa.
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If you know how far your shoulders turn you can figure out how far you need to turn your hips. Most people would be surprised just how LITTLE the shoulders can turn

... try it.

Everyone seems to think the shoulders can turn a lot. Do you reckon you can turn your shoulders 45° the way I described?
 
What I meant was, turn your hips as far as they need to go to get your shoulders at right angles to where they started.
The more flexible you are, the less you'll need to turn your hips and vice versa.
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If you know how far your shoulders turn you can figure out how far you need to turn your hips. Most people would be surprised just how LITTLE the shoulders can turn

... try it.

Everyone seems to think the shoulders can turn a lot. Do you reckon you can turn your shoulders 45° the way I described?
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I seem to be able to turn mine about 140* but thats would make my right knee to straight. Are we not looking to turn them about 90* and let the hips do as much as they need to get that far?? :D
 
If you hold a club out straight in front of you at shoulder height, pointing to 12 o/c. Then turn your shoulders as far as they can go without moving your hips or collapsing your right arm, they probably get to about 2 o/c. If you keep turning your shoulders at that point, the hips will follow allowing the club to point to 3 o/c. that should be about where you want to be.
 
Going to the range tomorrow to spend some time on this new swing thought. Hope to be able to keep it up.

I know that my lack of wrist roll is holding me back from a proper swing but there is plenty of time to work on that.

Some good stuff here and hope it can help others.
 
It's practically IMPOSSIBLE to turn your shoulders more than 30° (40° if you're made out of rubber) so our hips/knees have to allow us to turn properly. If we resist with the hips/knees then it's practically impossible to complete a proper 90° shoulder turn.


Ohhhh wrist rolling? You don't want to be doing that.
 
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