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HomerJSimpson said:
We have a lady crowdfunding to provide takeaways for ICU (and rippling out to ED and other departments). First 20 Domino pizzas arrived at lunchtime. Happy days. Another delivery on Friday and now working on other options to spend the 6K plus already raised over and above pizza. Some great comments on the FB page and it has made a big difference to morale today. Much needed
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Sorry Homer, this isn’t aimed at you, maybe @Ethan can answer.

First off, I think what the lady is doing is fantastic, but what about the risk of Covid been transferred to the ICU from the Dominoes?

As far as I’m aware the advice/information initially given out on how long the virus can live on different surfaces hasn’t changed, how can you or anybody guarantee nothing is being brought in to the hospital from the Dominoes chain.

We still wash every bit of food/mail/deliveries that come to the house, maybe we are over cautious, but I am confused how take-aways are deemed to be safe etc, more the packaging than the food. What has changed since the initial lockdown and the precautions we were taking?
 
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pauldj42 said:
Sorry Homer, this isn’t aimed at you, maybe @Ethan can answer.

First off, I think what the lady is doing is fantastic, but what about the risk of Covid been transferred to the ICU from the Dominoes?

As far as I’m aware the advice/information initially given out on how long the virus can live on different surfaces hasn’t changed, how can you or anybody guarantee nothing is being brought in to the hospital from the Dominoes chain.

We still wash every bit of food/mail/deliveries that come to the house, maybe we are over cautious, but I am confused how take-aways are deemed to be safe etc, more the packaging than the food. What has changed since the initial lockdown and the precautions we were taking?
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You make a valid point. We took a trolley we use for our cold zone (and wiped and cleaned as we would if it went to a bedspace). The delivery driver met us in the car park and left the pizzas on a bench and then retreated. Social distance was observed at all times. We sanitised our hands before picking the pizza boxes up and putting on the trolley. We took it to the cold zone kitchen (non-covid) washed our hands and sorted between the two toppings. Two of us then masked and put PPE on to take them to the hot kitchens and left the others in the cold zone. Out of PPE, hands cleaned

Of course we can't guarantee if the driver was Covid free, or how well the store are doing in terms of Covid protocols but we have run this past the Matron and our infection control and they seem to think the risk at this time is minimal enough to agree to it. We'll see how this plays out in the next few weeks and whether we can carry on minimising the risk and whether infection control continue to permit it

On a separate note, many other areas are getting goodies sent in by patient families and former patients and most are going straight into rest areas (no quarantining) so it is happening across the trust. I know other local hospitals that are having similar gifts and food deliveries. Whether its right or not I'll leave to Ethan and others to discuss but we're definitely grateful for any small wins in these difficult times
 
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pauldj42 said:
Sorry Homer, this isn’t aimed at you, maybe @Ethan can answer.

First off, I think what the lady is doing is fantastic, but what about the risk of Covid been transferred to the ICU from the Dominoes?

As far as I’m aware the advice/information initially given out on how long the virus can live on different surfaces hasn’t changed, how can you or anybody guarantee nothing is being brought in to the hospital from the Dominoes chain.

We still wash every bit of food/mail/deliveries that come to the house, maybe we are over cautious, but I am confused how take-aways are deemed to be safe etc, more the packaging than the food. What has changed since the initial lockdown and the precautions we were taking?
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Yes this is a most valid point. What comes into this house is wiped and then hands washed thoroughly. The risk might not be as major as other methods of transmission but it is a known way for viruses. I don't see this one being any different.
 
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pauldj42 said:
Sorry Homer, this isn’t aimed at you, maybe @Ethan can answer.

First off, I think what the lady is doing is fantastic, but what about the risk of Covid been transferred to the ICU from the Dominoes?

As far as I’m aware the advice/information initially given out on how long the virus can live on different surfaces hasn’t changed, how can you or anybody guarantee nothing is being brought in to the hospital from the Dominoes chain.

We still wash every bit of food/mail/deliveries that come to the house, maybe we are over cautious, but I am confused how take-aways are deemed to be safe etc, more the packaging than the food. What has changed since the initial lockdown and the precautions we were taking?
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I think a lot rests on the extent to which Dominos follow Govt advice on food handling. Paper and card are generally considered pretty low risk but it is probably sensible to wash your hands after eating the pizza before getting on with other stuff. Food itself is not considered to be a significant source of spread.

I will admit to the odd takeaway, including Dominos and I don't clean down the packaging after I get it.
 
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I think a lot rests on the extent to which Dominos follow Govt advice on food handling. Paper and card are generally considered pretty low risk but it is probably sensible to wash your hands after eating the pizza before getting on with other stuff. Food itself is not considered to be a significant source of spread.

I will admit to the odd takeaway, including Dominos and I don't clean down the packaging after I get it.
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Thanks for that, initially during lockdown 1 everything was closed, it seems, imo, as if the risk from Takeaway locations is now defunct as that is the go to answer for all business’s that can offer it, but I’d not seen the scientific advice change, even though as you say the risk is small, it does bother me though that we rely on the business’s strictly following the Govt advice.
We only get to see front of shop.?‍♂️
 
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Just seen Cor Hutton interviewed on Lorraine. Double hand transplant - blown away by the amazing results...can't believe how great they look and how such surgeries have moved on.
 
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Praise for my usual chinese takeaway for their set up that I used at the weekend. No Just Eat orders, telephone only so they can control numbers. They have a 2 door entrance way with a porch inbetween so you call on arrival, your order is put in the porch, you are then allowed to enter the porch, check your order with the person on the other side of a door to answer queries. You then take your order and leave. At no time are 2 people in the same room and there are wipes in the porch should you wish to wipe down the bag etc.
 
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The return of the NHL - seeing the Tampa Bay Lightning hoist their championship banner - and then kick seven bags of fertilizer out of the Chicago Blackhawks in their first game. Perfect morning watching it as-live.
 
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Just loving my daft but generous sister back home in Arran :love:

For Christmas she sent me a 1000 piece jigsaw - Map of the Kingdome of Scotland 1610. I told her it was looking to be really difficult. It is...

Then through the post couple of days ago I get the book (of the jigsaw) Scotland: Mapping the Nation. What a fabulous book. A history of the mapping of Scotland from Ptolemy to the present day.

A fascinating look into the past - but also weird seeing place names we know so well on a 1610 map and so that were in use way back then. Somehow I sometimes miss or forget the obvious - that place names can go a long way back in history and so for instance where I am from - the Eastwood area of Renfrewshire - the locals would have talked of Eastwood in 1610 (though it is spelled in the old way - Eftwood )
 
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Orikoru said:
My previous 5k to that was over 28 mins! Although that was on Dec 27th... The only thing I consciously changed was from looking at some of my other runs I noticed I start slow, and my first km is often the second slowest (after the last km). So I tried to make sure I started at a better pace. I guess it did the trick!
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Great work!! What trainers did you buy out of interest??

I have had 5 and 10k PB's recently!! I am loving lockdown for training!
 
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Rooter said:
Great work!! What trainers did you buy out of interest??

I have had 5 and 10k PB's recently!! I am loving lockdown for training!
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They are Brooks Revel 3. I wasn't familiar with the brand but my mate who's into running recommended them. They were 30-something % off on Pro Direct Running.

I just ran another 5k, and managed 26:25, so not as quick but that's still my second quickest ever, so it was no fluke - they really are good trainers.
 
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