The Judicial System...

[stevelev]

So they can be released and re-offend?
For certain crimes they MUST be removed from the gene pool altogether.
I don't want to pay to keep them alive and run the risk that they come out and re-offend. These people are sick and must be extinguished, for the giood of all.
Their victim doesn't get a second chance, why should they?

Slime.

You also need to look at the circumstance under which the custodial sentence was administered. I manage prolific ex-offenders. The national re-offending rate is in the region of 68% for 2010/2011, this has reduced last year figures not yet released.

The project I manage works with the top 5% of prolific offenders based in the Manchester area. The re-offending rate of the staff I manage is 13%. I do not manage prevalent violent offenders not sex-offenders. In 4 years I have managed 28 staff, giving tax payer savings in the region of £4Million also the people I manage have now gone on to pay tax work helping other ex-offender move forward following release.

Rehabilitation can work as can punishment, it is a fine line and very hard to get it right everytime. A lot of crimes committed are due to circumstance and/or substance mis-use. SOme crimes are committed by young people through fear.

Gun running for gangs in deprived areas is a common offence. If you knew there were people out there who could easily hurt your family if you never did a small act for them, would you say no??? If you do they do hurt your family, if you report them they still hurt your family, if you get caught and report them they hurt your family. It is very hard in some areas to avoid crime, those that do or manage to turn their lives around following release need support to be a benefit to the community.

There are some that can not be rehabilitated and unfortunately they will always be a burden on tax payers and communities.

I'm just thankful I found golf to relax after the stresses of managing the client group I employ, and am proud there are plenty of ex-offenders out there wanting to go straight.

 

[chrisd]

You also need to look at the circumstance under which the custodial sentence was administered. I manage prolific ex-offenders. The national re-offending rate is in the region of 68% for 2010/2011, this has reduced last year figures not yet released.

The project I manage works with the top 5% of prolific offenders based in the Manchester area. The re-offending rate of the staff I manage is 13%. I do not manage prevalent violent offenders not sex-offenders. In 4 years I have managed 28 staff, giving tax payer savings in the region of £4Million also the people I manage have now gone on to pay tax work helping other ex-offender move forward following release.

Rehabilitation can work as can punishment, it is a fine line and very hard to get it right everytime. A lot of crimes committed are due to circumstance and/or substance mis-use. SOme crimes are committed by young people through fear.

Gun running for gangs in deprived areas is a common offence. If you knew there were people out there who could easily hurt your family if you never did a small act for them, would you say no??? If you do they do hurt your family, if you report them they still hurt your family, if you get caught and report them they hurt your family. It is very hard in some areas to avoid crime, those that do or manage to turn their lives around following release need support to be a benefit to the community.

There are some that can not be rehabilitated and unfortunately they will always be a burden on tax payers and communities.

I'm just thankful I found golf to relax after the stresses of managing the client group I employ, and am proud there are plenty of ex-offenders out there wanting to go straight.

Steve, I don't think anyone isn't appreciative of the job you and others do and the results that you achieve.

Most of my views are based on the leniency in the judicial system that allows criminals to keep on re-offending almost with impunity. Burglars who go free after many many convictions, youngsters who laugh at the courts, the stories that you and we all read in the papers every day and just shake our heads. Also, the ridiculous excesses of the Human Rights Act with decisions made by unelected fools.

I could go on but I'm sure that you've heard it all before!

The main thing is that you carry on your good work, I am sure it helps