The General Election 2010

[medwayjon]

Politics is incredibly crooked from the bottom up.

The top guy on the planning committee a few years ago locally used to expect a £500 bung from developers etc to get the green light on their projects.

At the end of the day, they all have their flaws, the best option in my eyes is the conservative party, whom I shall be working for in the local general election campaign.

Labour are the scummiest of scum, it is the biggest old boys club in the world. I mean look at that cretin Mandleson, there he is at the conference, delivering his speech wearing a £35k watch! That is an image that shows just how much politics stinks.

 

[welshjim22]

Will be voting Tory, but to be honest that is just to get out Labour. The way i see it you can vote Labour no change or vote Tory and things may not get any better but at least we have a different party trying something different. Shame really only two parties are serious contenders.

My prefered party would be UKIP as i am very anti EU, couldn't possibly be anything to do with my job honest.

 

[Tommo21]

Politics is incredibly crooked from the bottom up.

The top guy on the planning committee a few years ago locally used to expect a £500 bung from developers etc to get the green light on their projects.

At the end of the day, they all have their flaws, the best option in my eyes is the conservative party, whom I shall be working for in the local general election campaign.

Labour are the scummiest of scum, it is the biggest old boys club in the world. I mean look at that cretin Mandleson, there he is at the conference, delivering his speech wearing a £35k watch! That is an image that shows just how much politics stinks.

While I agree in many ways, they're all at it, dont be fooled..........how du know it's 35k

 

[USER1999]

Because Jon's got the same one?

 

[haplesshacker]

£35K, £15K or £5K makes no difference it's an expensive watch to some of us.

To put it another way. As a percentage of his earnings he probably spent less on his watch than you or I did on ours! So now who's got the expensive watch?

It was probably given to him anyway as a bung to pass on information or influence a decision somewhere anyway! (Or it might not have been.)(Am I in the clear now!)

I don't like Mandy, but you have to admire his tenacity. I didn't much care for Tony Benn, but he was a true believer in what he said and often made sense. Even if you disagreed with him. Politicians like Benn, I could understand. Mandy, Derek Hatton et al, I just couldn't. The Tories don't escape either, Jeffery Archer anyone.

Some good in all of the parties, and some bad as well.

 

[need_my_wedge]

Politics is incredibly crooked from the bottom up.

The top guy on the planning committee a few years ago locally used to expect a £500 bung from developers etc to get the green light on their projects.

At the end of the day, they all have their flaws, the best option in my eyes is the conservative party, whom I shall be working for in the local general election campaign.

Labour are the scummiest of scum, it is the biggest old boys club in the world. I mean look at that cretin Mandleson, there he is at the conference, delivering his speech wearing a £35k watch! That is an image that shows just how much politics stinks.

One of the main reasons Labour got into power with Blair was their anti cronyism campaign against the tories. If Mandleson isn't a prome example of cronyism I don't know who else is. But then their decision to abolish hereditary peers just so they could replace them with their own people was probably the best way of exhibiting their lack of cronyism....... And I'm not saying hereditary peers was the best way......


Labour are indeed the scummiest of the scum, or rather, the top layer of scum in English politics at the moment .

 

[Parmo]

Labour are indeed the scummiest of the scum, or rather, the top layer of scum in English politics at the moment .

It wont be long before the Tories are once again in that spot, don't you worry about that one. That said its easy for the Tories because they are not actually telling voters their policies and avoiding any real decision making, they are just relying on the British negative press to win voters, that said Labour haven’t and never have played up the great things that have been introduced in the last 12 years. We all know in 5-7 years the shoe will be on the other foot and the British political circle will commence again.

 

[haplesshacker]

It's the easiest job in the world.....being in opposition, regardless of party.

 

[Chrimbo]

The Tories will win the next election regardless of turnout because people want a change, however will that change anything for the likes of you and me? - No ..........

The Tories will resort to form and look after all their city chums, deregulate everything and blame the chaos on the last Labour government.

As Ken once said If voting changed anything, they'd abolish it

 

[tonto768]

I don't think it matters much who's in power one is as bad as the other

 

[Del]

Tories to win by a mile, I hope !!!

 

[MVP]

Its already set up for conservatives to win!!! Im sure of it ! its the G20 and NEW WORLD ORDER who decide things now not us!

alll votes are wasted its time fo r a Peoples revolt against government!!! dont be scared of it!!

 

[Herbie]

I would like to see a complete change, but I know nothing will happen swiftly, but I do know that voting Labour is ignorance at its highest. I have no complaints with anyones vote going where they wish it to, but I think the public have to be so very naive to vote Labour with a clear concience or some romantic dream of old working class values, or belief in this showers direction.

When you look at what this shower took over and threw away to the point now of leaving us all up sh*t creak without a paddle I can only belive a Labour supporter has completely missed the last decade or viewed it with rose tinted glasses giving labour credit for things started by others or things that others would have done anyway. There has been absolutely ZERO justification for this manipulating, arrogant, deceptive bunch of con artists to have remained as long as they have in the seat of government of this nation, the only thing that has allowed this to happen is the unquestionable ignorance of the public that voted for them,or didnt vote at all, or the simmple short term greed of a minority of influence.

I have had my rant, I dont care if it offends, if you are a labour voter, I would ask you to vote for anyone including BNP if you wish as they would do less damage even if elected.

Gordon Brown is not the economic messiah, he is a useless failure with a track record second to none for cock ups if only you were to open your eyes and ears. But never mind, him and his missus will no doubt get lovely highly paid jobs in brussels like two other labour wasters from wales did, may even follow later with a peerage.

We are currently sitting on depleted resourses, we have little or nothing in the kitty should there be another attack of depression (a possibility)we could fall further into the myre, we have a nice future tax burden for our children to thank our stupidity for, we have a massive shortage of tradesmen and women, we have a major burden for our children keeping up with the eco targets set in motion and alongside this the natural risks to our shores in the future. I could go on.
Labour have a history of taking over, making a mess and leaving the cupboard bare, but this shower have absolutely drained us and made us something to laugh at around the world. The Tories may not be any better in may peoples eyes, this is probably a lot to do with the fact that each time they take over a complete mess up by labour and spend years putting things right to the displeasure of the public who quickly forget who messed it all up in the first place. No wonder Tories get so much stick, its been a cycle for as long as I remember, maybe it is time for real change, but I dont see it happening.

Enough ranting from me, do I hate labour? Never used to but I do now with a justified passion.People who say they are all the same, I would agree with that if it did not include labour, labour are in a league of their own for all the criticism levelled at polititions, labour are way beyond the rest.

 

[Tommo21]

I like the above, like the tories, not one shred of what they are going to do when they get in, if they get in. We want change, to what, we don’t even know. I know this much, my daughter works in a private care home for the retired. If it wasn’t for the minimum wage she would never get a rise and yet the residents pay a small fortune to stay there. The factory up the road is the same, minimum wage and the boss flies in on his Agusta helicopter while the minimum wage helps fund his sons aspirations to be a F1 driver.

Lets not forget the family values crap that the tories came away with when last in power, only to be caught out by the guy who was preaching this was busy fathering and keeping quiet an illegitimate child. The latest scandal about MP expenses funnily through up names of lots of forgotten tories who were, along with others, lining their own pockets. We had high up tories pointing fingers at anyone who dared question there integrity only to be caught out and jailed. We had gerrymandering of Westminster council, 1,047 Westminster families homeless in June 1993, 739 were housed outside the borough. Too far back that, how about the conservative plans for 'social cleansing' in Hammersmith & Fulham. That’s going on right now.
In my humble opinion, before the banks fleeced us all, this country was doing not bad. Low inflation, house prices rising steady, unemployment not to high, a fairly strong pound, lowish interest rates, steady growth. Before the banks, I never heard anyone, from any party, complain or predict the collapse we witnessed. Where was all the smart people then.

They’re all at it and if you believe the Tories need to come in and clear up the mess every time Labour are in power then god help us. It happens both ways, every single time with every party.

 

[Herbie]

I like the above, like the tories, not one shred of what they are going to do when they get in, if they get in. We want change, to what, we don’t even know. I know this much, my daughter works in a private care home for the retired. If it wasn’t for the minimum wage she would never get a rise and yet the residents pay a small fortune to stay there. The factory up the road is the same, minimum wage and the boss flies in on his Agusta helicopter while the minimum wage helps fund his sons aspirations to be a F1 driver.

Lets not forget the family values crap that the tories came away with when last in power, only to be caught out by the guy who was preaching this was busy fathering and keeping quiet an illegitimate child. The latest scandal about MP expenses funnily through up names of lots of forgotten tories who were, along with others, lining their own pockets. We had high up tories pointing fingers at anyone who dared question there integrity only to be caught out and jailed. We had gerrymandering of Westminster council, 1,047 Westminster families homeless in June 1993, 739 were housed outside the borough. Too far back that, how about the conservative plans for 'social cleansing' in Hammersmith & Fulham. That’s going on right now.
In my humble opinion, before the banks fleeced us all, this country was doing not bad. Low inflation, house prices rising steady, unemployment not to high, a fairly strong pound, lowish interest rates, steady growth. Before the banks, I never heard anyone, from any party, complain or predict the collapse we witnessed. Where was all the smart people then.

They’re all at it and if you believe the Tories need to come in and clear up the mess every time Labour are in power then god help us. It happens both ways, every single time with every party.

believe it or not , I agree with most of what you say, but the ballance of who did what, for what, for whom, and who was responsible for this that and tuther is a little cloudy. Any party could have enjoyed the false wealth of this nations good times and, the world market and banks and CREDIT feelgoods are one of those responsible, It didnt take more than a baboon to be successful in power over the last decade. As for seeing the future..... people like me get laughed at or ignored, yet I predicted many of the things that are happening now, or have happened, way back in the middle of Tony (Billy Liar) Blairs reign, like housing market balls up, credit problems, crashes, and job losses oh and possibility of war, to mention a few. If I was aware enough to notice and predict where this country was heading , why werent those charged with the governing of this country aware of what I was, after all i am just Mr ordinary bloke, who pays attention now and then???

 

[viscount17]

Herbie, you makes such a simple yet honest error, that of mistaking a politician as someone who gives a damn for anything other than Now and for anyone other than themselves.

 

[Herbie]

Herbie, you makes such a simple yet honest error, that of mistaking a politician as someone who gives a damn for anything other than Now and for anyone other than themselves.

Aha, but I never make that mistake, its just a simple case of making the best of the only crap we have on offer, because without radical change it is, and will be for a long time, all we have to work with. I for one would rather make the effort to make the best of something rather than sit on the fence and do nothing but moan about politicians, however deserving they all are, as I see this as moaning about something that has ALWAYS been there. Now if the people want to really get togeather and change this, then count me in. I know people, this won't happen, the best you can do is encourage change from one pile of crap for another pile of less offensive crap, and that really is the truth of the matter.Something needs doing, doing nothing is a way of saying, "I accept the crap I am currently getting, please pile some more on!"