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The Ashes 2017/18

fundy said:
thats the problem though isnt it, this format is being backed at the expense of everything else, for you like me cricket will be pretty much dead in the format we love in a few years

i see rashid has signed a white ball only contract for yorkshire today
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This is where it doesn’t add up and I’m with you. To me a leggy is a long format bowler only. Wasted in the short form as surely he can’t learn his craft properly.
 
Piece said:
This is where it doesn’t add up and I’m with you. To me a leggy is a long format bowler only. Wasted in the short form as surely he can’t learn his craft properly.
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i guess hes decided england arent prepared to pick him in tests so he may as well make hay and earn what he can, sad to see thats for sure
 
Embarrassing but also slightly understandable. Parts of this team have been on tour since the end of October. How can it be a good thing to have a team on tour for nearly 6 months at a time. Add to that no test matches since the end of the ashes and a format (day/night) that we are not overly familiar with and you can see why this was an abject failure.

True, there are bigger problems in the England set up but this leg of the tour just seemed a step too far.
 
Not sure Bayliss is doing anything for the team and moving them forward His "rabbit in headlights" comment summed it up. Why were they like that. Professional cricketers and sorry but most have been playing cricket in some form or another and so should have been able to get into "test" mode and it's nothing but an embarrassment. New Zealand are a team on the up but their not the strongest even at home and you can expect this to be over inside three days, possibly two if we bat like that again
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Not sure Bayliss is doing anything for the team and moving them forward His "rabbit in headlights" comment summed it up. Why were they like that. Professional cricketers and sorry but most have been playing cricket in some form or another and so should have been able to get into "test" mode and it's nothing but an embarrassment. New Zealand are a team on the up but their not the strongest even at home and you can expect this to be over inside three days, possibly two if we bat like that again
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sorry but as per usual this is utter hs!

how do you get into test mode when you are being paid to play limited over cricket 90% of the time, you are constantly practising moving around in the crease, range hitting etc then suddenly youre expected to bat in a test match against 2 top class new ball operators on a helpful pitch when youve had a 2 day warm up game? they dont just have a switch ffs

this isnt an england problem this is a test match cricket problem and ultimately the powers that be have pretty much got their way and killed the format bar a handful of games a year, and the players are just expected to turn it on and off as required despite having no incentive to practise and improve at the format but are being paid handsomely to practise skills that are counter productive? the funny thing is overall quality will start to decline as players dont have the fundamental base to start with in the future
 
fundy said:
sorry but as per usual this is utter hs!

how do you get into test mode when you are being paid to play limited over cricket 90% of the time, you are constantly practising moving around in the crease, range hitting etc then suddenly youre expected to bat in a test match against 2 top class new ball operators on a helpful pitch when youve had a 2 day warm up game? they dont just have a switch ffs

this isnt an england problem this is a test match cricket problem and ultimately the powers that be have pretty much got their way and killed the format bar a handful of games a year, and the players are just expected to turn it on and off as required despite having no incentive to practise and improve at the format but are being paid handsomely to practise skills that are counter productive? the funny thing is overall quality will start to decline as players dont have the fundamental base to start with in the future
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Absolutely spot on!!

The dominance of the white ball game both domestically and internationally is leading to the demise of Test cricket as players are being encouraged to develop a different skill set.

I reckon I could select two or three competitive England one day sides but would struggle to pick a Test team. Witness the current situation with the batting line-up.
 
Agree with the last two posts, Aggers was talking on similar lines yesterday. You only have to look at how quickly some Test Matches are over now, to see the players aren’t in that mindset anymore.
 
Good to see Aussie hypocrisy has reached even new levels today

If it wasnt bad enough watching Warner winge like a baby that someone had said something nasty too him (having spent the last decade sledging any and every opponent) today they then get caught on camera tampering with the ball with what appears to be a piece of sandpaper (andf then lying when caught)

Chief hypocrit Lehman who wanted Broad sent home in tears has now cancelled all interviews (whilst they get their stories straight and decide which lie theyre going to peddle eventually)

The Aussies want to set this moral line that everyone else is supposed to operate by, bag them out when they dont yet expects to be able to act as though these rules dont apply to themselves

Video for anyone who hasnt seen it

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/86t2bw/video_of_brancroft_incident_with_3_different/
 
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Grubby players, grubby team, led by a grubby coach. Lol that they are whinging about their treatment in SA, after peddling the same for years. You can bet they’ve been doing this for years.
 
Piece said:
Grubby players, grubby team, led by a grubby coach. Lol that they are whinging about their treatment in SA, after peddling the same for years. You can bet they’ve been doing this for years.
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no you must have missed Smith's interview, this is definitely the first time theyve ever done anything like this, honestly guv, awwwww look mayte
 
This has cheered me up no end! Smith will have to resign surely, and I wonder if this will move forward Lehman’s departure?

I just hope Bancroft wasn’t pressured into this, his reputation is now stained forever.

As for Warner/Lehman moaning about the sledging/crowd abuse - if you can’t take it, they shouldn’t have been dishing it for years.
 
Can England bat through the day and save a test they've no right to be still in, thanks to the rain. Weather set fair for day five. Looked a nasty rap on Root's hand prior to the dismissal and I hope no damage going forward. What do people think of his captaincy?
 
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