Steven Gerrard

[Doon frae Troon]

Slightly to my surprise he seems to be doing quite a decent job as the Rangers manager.
So far he has avoided all the usual OF guff and handles himself well with the press.
He also respects the opposition teams [rare for a manager of the Rangers].
I would perhaps question his buying, for the amount of money spent on players compared to the likes of St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Livingston, Aberdeen and Hibs he should be in a much stronger league position.
He is giving the youngsters a chance [again something rare for the Rangers] and availed himself with some good loan deals.
8/10 for the season so far.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Why, it is about a respected former England captains first steps in management.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Don’t really follow Scottish football,but looks like he’s doing a pretty average job tbh.
Possibly Celtic are making it look a bit better 🤷‍♂️

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I’m happy for it to be a separate thread

 

[Pin-seeker]

What would be a seen successful season for him?
Obviously apart from winning the league.

 

[Beezerk]

#Iwonderifitwillturnintoanothercelticvsrangersborefest

 

[sam85]

Also been impressed with Gerrards start to his managerial career. I especially like his honest interviews after games, not afraid to criticise his own players unlike a lot of managers.

 

[Wolf]

Got to be honest and say I'm more impressed by Lampards start to his career in what I consider a harder league.

Gerrard has done decent but I don't see how Scottish football can be classed as a decent competitive league that is worth cutting your teeth in. Look at managers like Neil Lennon, go years winning a mediocre league then come to the championship and not be able to transfer those skills because its all been to easy North of the border.

I tend to see Gerrards tenure more as a see if he likes the idea of management in an easier setting before trying the real thing back home somewhere.

Queue me now getting shot down by rangers fans, or other Scottish football fans. I'm merely pointing out what I see as levels of competition.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Also been impressed with Gerrards start to his managerial career. I especially like his honest interviews after games, not afraid to criticise his own players unlike a lot of managers.

I did see one of his press conferences & he wasn’t taking any prisoners.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Got to be honest and say I'm more impressed by Lampards start to his career in what I consider a harder league.

Gerrard has done decent but I don't see how Scottish football can be classed as a decent competitive league that is worth cutting your teeth in. Look at managers like Neil Lennon, go years winning a mediocre league then come to the championship and not be able to transfer those skills because its all been to easy North of the border.

I tend to see Gerrards tenure more as a see if he likes the idea of management in an easier setting before trying the real thing back home somewhere.

Queue me now getting shot down by rangers fans, or other Scottish football fans. I'm merely pointing out what I see as levels of competition.

I think you miss-judge Scottish football [well this season anyway] Compare SPFL and EPL tables for competitiveness.
Celtic are playing well and are still in Europe, I forgot to mention that Rangers under Gerrard played some nice fitba and also had a decent run in Europe.

 

[Wolf]

I think you miss-judge Scottish football [well this season anyway] Compare SPFL and EPL tables for competitiveness.
Celtic are playing well and are still in Europe, I forgot to mention that Rangers under Gerrard played some nice fitba and also had a decent run in Europe.

I am not misjudging at all, I've seen Scottish games both league and European on sky this season, and see EPL and EFL games as well and I say my judgement remains the same. EPL and EFL still a tougher and better contested league with better teams than the SPL throughout.

I think anyone that suggests otherwose does so with rose tinted specs for days gone by, but if your a fan of a Scottish team that's to be expected and understood

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Got to be honest and say I'm more impressed by Lampards start to his career in what I consider a harder league.

Gerrard has done decent but I don't see how Scottish football can be classed as a decent competitive league that is worth cutting your teeth in. Look at managers like Neil Lennon, go years winning a mediocre league then come to the championship and not be able to transfer those skills because its all been to easy North of the border.

I tend to see Gerrards tenure more as a see if he likes the idea of management in an easier setting before trying the real thing back home somewhere.

Queue me now getting shot down by rangers fans, or other Scottish football fans. I'm merely pointing out what I see as levels of competition.

Lampard is prob in a harder league as the competition is fierce to get out of the Prem but he is doing really well , got tbe team playing nice football but I think the pressure for Gerrard is prob more. He did well with one of the youth teams at Liverpool and Rangers is a good next step for him to go on to bigger things.

 

[Wolf]

Lampard is prob in a harder league as the competition is fierce to get out of the Prem but he is doing really well , got tbe team playing nice football but I think the pressure for Gerrard is prob more. He did well with one of the youth teams at Liverpool and Rangers is a good next step for him to go on to bigger things.

I'd agree Gerrard has more pressure of expectation but again that imo is only because of it being such a weak league that he is expected to win more and beat Celtic, personally still don't see it as a tougher job for achievement than Lampards.

 

[Papas1982]

Lampard is prob in a harder league as the competition is fierce to get out of the Prem but he is doing really well , got tbe team playing nice football but I think the pressure for Gerrard is prob more. He did well with one of the youth teams at Liverpool and Rangers is a good next step for him to go on to bigger things.

Whilst I agree that rangers fans may impart more pressure on Gerrard, from clubs looking at both of them I think Lampard will get more respect (currently), unless Gerrard wins the then he doesn’t really prove anything. He has a free hit, because if they finish second everyone will say he has no chance against Celtic anyways.

 

[Wolf]

Whilst I agree that rangers fans may impart more pressure on Gerrard, from clubs looking at both of them I think Lampard will get more respect (currently), unless Gerrard wins the then he doesn’t really prove anything. He has a free hit, because if they finish second everyone will say he has no chance against Celtic anyways.

Couldn't agree more.. Its a free pass if he wins he gets lauded and achieves what is expected of he doesn't he will be lauded for closing the gap in Cetic who were expected to win..

Lampard on the other hand is in a tough league, playing good football and trying to achieve something so much tougher

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Isnt it more about building experience managing?
Rangers may be in a more slightly easier league than Derby in relation to the number of teams with a good chance, but you could argue Gerrardis at a more higer profile club simply because of the history with Celtic.
Gerrard is doing a good job, learning the ropes before at some point returning to Anfield in some capacity.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I am not misjudging at all, I've seen Scottish games both league and European on sky this season, and see EPL and EFL games as well and I say my judgement remains the same. EPL and EFL still a tougher and better contested league with better teams than the SPL throughout.

I think anyone that suggests otherwose does so with rose tinted specs for days gone by, but if your a fan of a Scottish team that's to be expected and understood

I do not think anyone is disputing that the EPL is a stronger League than the SPFL
I was talking about competitive, meaning the number of points between say the top 8 teams in the league
Massive gap between top and bottom in the EPL, so call it realistically a 10 team league, same as SPFL.
Just check the tables and add up the points difference to check which of the two leagues is 'more competitive'.
Saying the EPL is better contested than the SPFL is just plumb wrong. I am talking about this season.
I think 5 [certainly 4] teams have topped the SPFL table this year.

Just checked 13 points between 1st and 8th in SPFL
23 points between 1st and 8th in EPL.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I do not think anyone is disputing that the EPL is a stronger League than the SPFL
I was talking about competitive, meaning the number of points between say the top 8 teams in the league
Massive gap between top and bottom in the EPL, so call it realistically a 10 team league, same as SPFL.
Just check the tables and add up the points difference to check which of the two leagues is 'more competitive'.
Saying the EPL is better contested than the SPFL is just plumb wrong. I am talking about this season.
I think 5 [certainly 4] teams have topped the SPFL table this year.

13 points between the top 8 in the SPL and 14 points between the top 8 in the Prem- as you mention top 10 it’s 14 points between the top ten in the Prem and it’s 27 between the top ten in the SPL 😲

But you only have to look at the winners each year and can see that the SPL is mainly a one club league maybe two if Rangers pick up - the last team to win outside those two is Aberdeen maybe 30 plus years ago.

Watching it today and the standard isn’t great - lower championship level from what I saw today

 

[Papas1982]

I do not think anyone is disputing that the EPL is a stronger League than the SPFL
I was talking about competitive, meaning the number of points between say the top 8 teams in the league
Massive gap between top and bottom in the EPL, so call it realistically a 10 team league, same as SPFL.
Just check the tables and add up the points difference to check which of the two leagues is 'more competitive'.
Saying the EPL is better contested than the SPFL is just plumb wrong. I am talking about this season.
I think 5 [certainly 4] teams have topped the SPFL table this year.

Just checked 13 points between 1st and 8th in SPFL
23 points between 1st and 8th in EPL.

That's just using the starts that suit your argument.

Top to bottom gap in ok is 40 points. That's 2points per position drop on average. All it's 30. That's 3 points position.....

 

[Wolf]

I do not think anyone is disputing that the EPL is a stronger League than the SPFL
I was talking about competitive, meaning the number of points between say the top 8 teams in the league
Massive gap between top and bottom in the EPL, so call it realistically a 10 team league, same as SPFL.
Just check the tables and add up the points difference to check which of the two leagues is 'more competitive'.
Saying the EPL is better contested than the SPFL is just plumb wrong. I am talking about this season.
I think 5 [certainly 4] teams have topped the SPFL table this year.

Just checked 13 points between 1st and 8th in SPFL
23 points between 1st and 8th in EPL.

It's all well and good quoting stats that purely suit your argument, but that doesn't equate to it being a better more competitive league. The standard is dire and stats only work in favour because eof the mediocitiry of the other 8 teams in the top division.