egerst
Hacker
Is anyone still using this method if so hows it going?
stack & tilt
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birdieman
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Justoneuk is the main S+T man on here and Murphthemog dabbles in its black arts too! They are the ones to talk to.
S+T is not a quick fix for better golf. It may suit some players and not others but worth looking into it.
Many of us probably incorporate some of it in our games unknowingly.
S+T is not a quick fix for better golf. It may suit some players and not others but worth looking into it.
Many of us probably incorporate some of it in our games unknowingly.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Yep, still going with it. At it's best, it is great, at it's worst, it isn't appalling.
What it has done is convert my bad shot from being a big slice to a duck hook. Not sure if that is an imporovement.
My previous swing pretty much eliminated the left side of the course, my new one has eliminated the right side.
I get a much better strike though, so I am further in the left hand bundu than previously.
The biggest issue to me with S&T is that you have to be capable of self analysis, as there aren't too many coaches around at the moment who have a clue how to teach it.
The book (Plummer and Bennett, The stack and tilt swing), is pretty good, and makes alot of sense, but if you can't convert that to actions, then it isn't for you. Similarly the video.
I have lent the book to HTL. Not sure what he makes of it.
What it has done is convert my bad shot from being a big slice to a duck hook. Not sure if that is an imporovement.
My previous swing pretty much eliminated the left side of the course, my new one has eliminated the right side.
I get a much better strike though, so I am further in the left hand bundu than previously.
The biggest issue to me with S&T is that you have to be capable of self analysis, as there aren't too many coaches around at the moment who have a clue how to teach it.
The book (Plummer and Bennett, The stack and tilt swing), is pretty good, and makes alot of sense, but if you can't convert that to actions, then it isn't for you. Similarly the video.
I have lent the book to HTL. Not sure what he makes of it.
egerst
Hacker
i've been fighting against coming over the top for nearly 2 years it just appeared then couldn't get rid of it no matter what drills or lessons i had. Also i have always struggled hitting down on the ball so i've decided to give S&T a good go as a couple of things make sense to me.
I've bought the book its very interesting so i'm off to the range this aft for a few hours
I've bought the book its very interesting so i'm off to the range this aft for a few hours
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
If you have a video camera, I would suggest taking it with you.
The bits I found most interesting in terms of curing coming over the top were the photos of the shaft on the downswing pointing through the bicep, rather than over the shoulder. If you can achieve that, you won't have any problems. This is not neccessarily only applicable to S&T, but works very well.
The bits I found most interesting in terms of curing coming over the top were the photos of the shaft on the downswing pointing through the bicep, rather than over the shoulder. If you can achieve that, you won't have any problems. This is not neccessarily only applicable to S&T, but works very well.
HTL
Tour Winner
I like parts and hate others.
Leaving weight on right foot and just Turing back and forth = Awesome.
Straightening right leg and = Bad times
Such a flat swing path = not sure, my normal swing path is flat but stack and tilt is a bit too flat.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Leaving weight on the right side = fat/duffed shots and being too flat is a result of a poor posture at set up.
Sounds like you prefer trying to invent your own swing... good luck with that
HTL
Tour Winner
Leaving weight on the right side = fat/duffed shots and being too flat is a result of a poor posture at set up.
Sounds like you prefer trying to invent your own swing... good luck with that
OOPS! I meant left foot!
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Sounds like you're having trouble Murph? To a degree your ball flight should be able to tell you where you are going wrong. Make sure you are bent forwards enough at the hips so you are in a good posture before you swing, then as you turn your shoulders the club will come up on the correct plane more naturally, not too flat, then you won't get such a dramatic ball flight.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
LOL
Don't straighten your right leg... just ALLOW it to straighten as necessary. Mine retains a little flex, the last thing you want to be doing is snapping it locked straight.
If you don't allow it to straighten you won't be able to turn your hips properly to 45°.
I'm still dabbling following a lengthy chat with Justoneuk at Ascot. I'm not fully conversant yet and with the onset of the shanks (coincidence and nothing else) I'm trying to get back to basics and stop the weight tipping forward through the downswing.
I liked it from the bits I took on board but didn't try the full S&T regime. It certainly gets me through the ball better and my (infamous) lateral movement is quieter and there is an improvement in distance and strike. Its not the ideal time of the season to really dive into it too much but I might have a look at the book and dabble a bit more over the winter
I liked it from the bits I took on board but didn't try the full S&T regime. It certainly gets me through the ball better and my (infamous) lateral movement is quieter and there is an improvement in distance and strike. Its not the ideal time of the season to really dive into it too much but I might have a look at the book and dabble a bit more over the winter
richy
Journeyman Pro
Ive read some stuff on this but still dont fully understand the swing and what movements you should be making
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
41 points today, so it isn't exactly poor, but the bad shot is still a bit of a snap. Possibly get a bit flat sometimes, and sometimes it gets a bit armsy.
Main problem is my ever present head up, where did that go before I have actually hit the flippin thing. If I ever cure this, I am turning pro.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
... did you go round twice???
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Nope. 5 over par, 41.
Played junk today, just the 36 points. Oh well, mediocrity strikes everyone once in a while.
Played junk today, just the 36 points. Oh well, mediocrity strikes everyone once in a while.
Good to see you coming back into some form Murph.
AuburnWarrior
Tour Winner
Off the Ladies tee???
You're not HTL - know your limits.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
The ground is hard, and there's a bit of run, so they let me move up to the yellows.
